This the the live blog for the opening afternoon of the IWMW 2008 event.
by Brian Kelly at 7/18/2008 12:28:09 PM
I'm now at IWMW 2008, in the main lecture theatre.
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 9:30:15 AM
Hi Brian - hope the day goes well. Joe
by Joe at 7/22/2008 9:44:47 AM
Best of luck for the conference Brian. Never come across ScribbleLive before, but I like it :-)
by Nitin at 7/22/2008 9:56:22 AM
Enjoy the conference, Brian. First time I've used ScribbleL
ive
by Karen Blakeman at 7/22/2008 10:02:27 AM
Hello everybody! I'm Mike Nolan from Edge Hill University - who else do we have here?
by Mike Nolan at 7/22/2008 10:04:07 AM
Sally here from the University of Nottingham.
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 10:12:47 AM
Last minute sorting out of technologies for the first set of speakers
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 11:22:36 AM
Greetings everyone
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 11:38:49 AM
Is Cameron in the room yet?
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 11:51:04 AM
David Williams from Sheffield Hallam, sat in the room, confused with the explanation of the language. Does explain why the taxi driver kept calling me Ken.
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 11:52:14 AM
What time is Cameron going on?
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 11:58:45 AM
Marieke Guy is now on stage introduing herself and thanking sponsors
by mikewhyment at 7/22/2008 11:59:05 AM
by mikewhyment at 7/22/2008 11:59:21 AM
Guess he will be on soon
by mikewhyment at 7/22/2008 12:00:00 PM
But we won't need the jumper this week!
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:04:31 PM
Cameron now starting.
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:05:25 PM
people come off the street to steal your bags...
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:07:12 PM
Cameron tells us he won't be talking about science.
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:08:20 PM
no science :(
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:09:05 PM
I like science
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:09:21 PM
he's showing the circle of science
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:10:04 PM
Cameron invites feedback via twitter - @cameronneylon
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:10:18 PM
with pretty colours
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:10:30 PM
the audio is a little weak
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:10:56 PM
SCience is collaborative - but scientists aren't necessarily great at embedding collaboration acorss various aspects of their work.
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:11:22 PM
selective collaboration
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:11:47 PM
Have asked Cameron to move closer to mike.
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:12:21 PM
Bill Hooker props
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:12:41 PM
thanks
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:12:57 PM
nice breakdown of the scientific process
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:14:58 PM
science = teenagers :)
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:16:18 PM
Good analogy!
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:17:02 PM
This is the real Information Environment, I guess.
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:17:29 PM
research IS a mashup
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:17:55 PM
scientific process = learning process = teaching process = research process ???
by Joe at 7/22/2008 12:18:09 PM
I guess there is a delay - I don't see his twitter post on FF
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:19:43 PM
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:19:59 PM
I got the twitter poat on twitter
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:20:04 PM
He's using firefox 3
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:20:29 PM
usefulchem.wikispaces.cocm ics timing out for Cameron
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:20:54 PM
it is working for me
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:21:03 PM
:(
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:21:10 PM
chemtools.chem.soton.ac.uk - his workspace
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:21:29 PM
my eyesight isn't good enough to the read the url in the browser :(
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:21:50 PM
Usefulchem is fine for me too - he's lost his network :-(
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:22:48 PM
oh no
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:23:29 PM
He's back to his slides
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:23:48 PM
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 12:24:33 PM
i am getting a more stable connection by vpning back to SHU
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:24:36 PM
www.citeulike.org
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:24:54 PM
Sally yes no prob for me
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:25:05 PM
Sorry, I mean the Webcast is not working for me. Can anyone else see it?
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 12:25:06 PM
Collague at UKOLN is viewing it ok
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:25:37 PM
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 12:25:39 PM
Don't like the way ther auto hyperlinking works in this tool
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:26:07 PM
Having failed to get out IT section to document anything for years, they got a wiki and now can't stop writing.
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:26:19 PM
Science needs Web 2.0 ...
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:26:24 PM
.. like ahole in the head says Cameron's sceptical collagues
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:26:40 PM
about the negativity.... :)
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:26:45 PM
yay cats!
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:26:59 PM
Also quoted wiki at www.openwetware.org
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:27:01 PM
Good list of the barriers
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:27:31 PM
but the average scientist is not the target user of web2.0
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:27:52 PM
but they do like other people to read their work
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:28:20 PM
Researchers are already overloaded - they see engagement with new tools as additional hassle with little benefit
by Joe at 7/22/2008 12:28:30 PM
science lust :)
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:28:44 PM
www.depth-first.com quoted
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:28:50 PM
yeah
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:28:51 PM
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:29:13 PM
he should have called his talk Science Lust to get more people maybe
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:29:21 PM
primary concern of researchers is to reduce the chore admin/management stuff
by Joe at 7/22/2008 12:29:21 PM
always a balance between chores and effectiveness
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:30:01 PM
some of this can reduce admin, as you don't have to set up some stuff every time. The structure stays in place.
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:30:25 PM
interesting to explore how web 2.0 stuff can improve central business processes
by Joe at 7/22/2008 12:31:11 PM
some scientists are asocial
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:31:47 PM
Is the webcast live flash? Would love to see it :(
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 12:31:55 PM
they get good by being self centred and highly focused on what interests them
by Joe at 7/22/2008 12:32:16 PM
Yes, Webcast is Flash-based
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:32:18 PM
research on the magic cloud
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:32:36 PM
rich scientists, that is a dream
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:33:02 PM
that is a tough challenge keeping everything open
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:33:25 PM
Not only would scientisst have to change their culture, the places where they work would have to, as openness doesn't sit well with Uni's desire for glory.
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:33:56 PM
time for one question
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:34:41 PM
perhaps the funding could go into a paypal account and they can all share it
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:35:59 PM
by mikewhyment at 7/22/2008 12:37:29 PM
Jamesd SOuttar and Dean Russell talking on Web 2.0 and Brand: Theory and Practice
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:37:53 PM
Brian, will the videos be available afterwards?
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 12:37:59 PM
No Helen Aspell
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:38:06 PM
Good talk - I have to get to work now...later everyone
by jeanclaude.bradley at 7/22/2008 12:38:27 PM
Aberdeen staff will be processing videos at some stage
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:38:28 PM
have people seen test-tube dot org dot uk?
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 12:38:42 PM
Mentioning iSoton services at
www.soton.ac.uk/isoton
by Alison Smyth at 7/22/2008 12:39:00 PM
no, but it is now on the list
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:39:03 PM
Why is it that when the marketing people start talking the blog goes very quiet?
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:44:45 PM
Was just thinking that myself
by Alison Smyth at 7/22/2008 12:45:25 PM
Haha, yes!
by PeteJ at 7/22/2008 12:45:43 PM
guess which way the line is going to go....
by Mike Nolan at 7/22/2008 12:46:31 PM
Oh No, turned into a marketing quadrant diagram
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:46:45 PM
Hmm - not much to comment on, I guess
by Brian Kelly at 7/22/2008 12:49:57 PM
I've heard this talk several times from Precedent and I'm still not convinced that the model/diagram is actually the right way to represent this stuff.
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:50:25 PM
Or perhaps I should say, it doesn't click for me, but presumably Southampton felt it made sense.
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:51:05 PM
but there are so many diagrams - that *has* to be good...?
by Jeremy Harmer at 7/22/2008 12:51:19 PM
:-)
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:51:32 PM
there are times you need to keep asking them for the details because of the data protectio
n act and changes of use of the data
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:52:10 PM
strange tree
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:54:23 PM
nice decision tree... looked a bit dead though
by Jeremy Harmer at 7/22/2008 12:54:33 PM
Where is this "decision tree" on Soton campus?
by Mike Nolan at 7/22/2008 12:54:42 PM
got cut down...
by Jeremy Harmer at 7/22/2008 12:54:55 PM
most branches appeared to have grown back down to ground level
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:55:19 PM
screenshot?
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 12:55:27 PM
Don't believe search silos work. Universal search with ability to filter is future.
by Mike Nolan at 7/22/2008 12:55:54 PM
looks the same as the live one
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:55:58 PM
but it was a capture
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:56:05 PM
oh no, laptop battery about to cave in. I may go quiet from now on.
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:56:55 PM
there a plently of plugs around in here
by mikewhyment at 7/22/2008 12:57:29 PM
not near me :(
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:57:49 PM
i'll pick a better seat next session
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:57:59 PM
no plugs this side...
by Jeremy Harmer at 7/22/2008 12:58:22 PM
if they are used to people complaining about what they produce, are they producing the right things?
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 12:59:57 PM
I think James is spot on about the cultural challenge.
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 12:59:57 PM
there are now more mobile devices on the web than PCsc
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 1:00:30 PM
We're told we should have all these Web 2.0 things, but the corporate culture to support, use and accept the consequences of using these is not really up to it!
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 1:01:12 PM
there are now more mobile devices on the web than PCs <-----can you point me to a reference?
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 1:01:29 PM
I'll try and find it, it came from Adoe at a CS3/flash presentation
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 1:02:14 PM
*Adobe
by David John Williams at 7/22/2008 1:02:20 PM
I like the idea that Mike has just mentioned of everyone being a curator.
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 1:05:30 PM
Thanks David - I find it hard to believe
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 1:06:04 PM
I'd heard the mobile device stat before - also there's a stat on the iPhone web browser having a share of the total
web browser market
by Alison Smyth at 7/22/2008 1:06:40 PM
Thanks Alison - that would be interesting to see also
by Sally EH at 7/22/2008 1:08:09 PM
by mikewhyment at 7/22/2008 1:11:19 PM
by Mike Nolan at 7/22/2008 1:16:10 PM
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 1:17:54 PM
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 1:18:28 PM
Now off to discussion sessions
by Adrian Tribe at 7/22/2008 1:24:24 PM
whas yous sassanachs doin in ma city with yous fancy computas?
by Drunk crofter at 7/22/2008 2:05:41 PM
is it useful to be telling us what we already know?
by gnozu at 7/23/2008 8:23:16 AM
