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September 18, 2009
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3:13 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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Milling about the #oxsmc09 coffee area |
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3:20 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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In the lecture theatre early for #oxsmc09 - probably have the best seat... |
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3:20 am
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Armo:
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Apparently I'm at #oxsmc09 not #oxsoc as previously suggested |
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3:24 am
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timmaughan:
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Hashtag confusion: is it #oxsoc, #oxsmc or #oxsmc09? |
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3:25 am
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aden_76:
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so it seems that the hashtag for the Oxford event is #oxsmc09 expect a hell of a lot of tweets from me with that tag today.... |
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3:26 am
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PeterBale:
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At the Oxford Social Media Convention ##oxsmc09 which looks intriguing but could be dangerously worthy for a laissez faire capitalist |
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3:26 am
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hashtager:
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# Hashtag confusion: is it #oxsoc, #oxsmc or #oxsmc09? |
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3:26 am
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hashtager:
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# so it seems that the hashtag for the Oxford event is #oxsmc09 expect a hell of a lot of tweets from me with that tag today.... |
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3:27 am
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MahalloMedia:
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# so it seems that the hashtag for the Oxford event is #oxsmc09 expect a hell of a lot of tweets from me with that tag today.... |
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3:27 am
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MahalloMedia:
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# so it seems that the hashtag for the Oxford event is #oxsmc09 expect a hell of a lot of tweets from me with that tag today.... |
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3:28 am
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PeterBale:
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Slightly worried one #oxsmc09 speaker describes himself as a "new media pioneer" and another as "internationally-regarded" (sic). Legends. |
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3:30 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Just arrived at the Oxford Social Media Convention - looking forward to seeing what the day will bring. |
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3:33 am
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superjeans:
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not at #oxsmc09 |
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3:34 am
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andrewspong:
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RT @PeterBale: One #oxsmc09 spkr describes himself as a "new media pioneer", another as "internationally-regarded" (sic). |
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3:35 am
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kate_day:
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@a451 I was sent a press release. Sure there will be a flurry of blogs/tweets so between us we will let u know what's happening - #oxsmc09 |
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3:36 am
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briankelly:
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Strange there's no Twitterwall while we're waiting for #oxsmc09 to start |
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3:38 am
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CameronNeylon:
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At Oxford Social Media Conference - will be on twitter rather than Friendfeed as that seems to be where this community is #oxsmc09 |
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3:38 am
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felixrieseberg:
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#oxsmc09 Many people thought that this is going to be interesting, the lecture theatre is full of notebooks :) |
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3:39 am
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briankelly:
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The Oxford Social Media Conventio (#oxsmc09) is on Assessing the evolution, impact & potential of social media |
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3:40 am
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aden_76:
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#oxsmc09 is sponsored by match.com 'make love happen' I must have missed the speed dating session on the agenda |
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3:41 am
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thannigan:
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arrived at the Oxford Social Media Convention, Said Business School - looking forward to the day #oxsmc09 |
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3:43 am
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rasiej:
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I am speaking today at the Oxford Social Media Convention.
New ideas meet at an old University...#oxsmc09 |
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3:43 am
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thannigan:
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arrived at the Oxford Social Media Convention, Said Business School - looking forward to the day #oxsmc09 #oxsoc |
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3:44 am
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andrewspong:
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Hoping #oxsmc09 focuses on SM's nurturing inclusive, many-to-many interactions, not gate-keeping, key-holding, wrist-slapping SM mgrs/dirs |
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3:44 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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By the way, OII have some good podcasts from previous events on iTunes... have a look. #oxsmc09 |
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3:45 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The hash tag for today is #oxsmc09 - bring it on. NEW TOOLS WEB 2.0 and TWITTER OH MY! |
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3:46 am
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a451:
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Keeping an eye on #oxsmc09 today |
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3:47 am
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RossIGrant:
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Managed to pick up the #oxsmc09 looking over the shoulder of someones netbook. OII Conference. |
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3:47 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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Videos from today will be up on the web after the day #oxsmc09 |
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3:47 am
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jfarnhill:
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As with @CameronNeylon at #oxsmc09 so thanks for the tag - was just looking for that! Wireless is slightly ropey so on 3G and dipping in |
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3:48 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Live Blogging here: http://jennifr.net/?p=383 (#oxsmc09) |
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3:49 am
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jobucks:
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Oxford Media Convention hashtag is #oxsmc09 |
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3:50 am
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RossIGrant:
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At conference so using Tweetdeck in preference to Twitterific for #oxsmc09 but tweetfall promised. |
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3:50 am
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OLAcademy:
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Attending Oxford Social Media Convention #oxsmc09 - agenda at http://bit.ly/3qXH8N. Proceedings being filmed for later posting. |
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3:51 am
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geoffbannister:
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Attending Oxford Social Media Convention #oxsmc09 - agenda at http://bit.ly/3qXH8N. Proceedings being filmed for later posting. |
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3:51 am
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MahalloMedia:
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# Oxford Media Convention hashtag is #oxsmc09 |
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3:51 am
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saratindall1977:
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@hashtager hi, just checked with IT support, it's #oxsmc09 |
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3:51 am
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MahalloMedia:
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# Oxford Media Convention hashtag is #oxsmc09 |
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3:52 am
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aden_76:
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Agenda for todays #oxsmc09 is here http://bit.ly/14WNoN session 1 just kicking off now... |
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3:52 am
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DiamondLightSou:
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At the Oxford Social Media Convention #oxsmc09 |
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3:52 am
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caffeinebomb:
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A different hashtag is declared. Ah IT problems in Oxford. Mmmm. #oxsmc09 |
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3:53 am
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be_b:
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in bright Oxford at Social Media Convention. +300 delegates, 28 speakers - great sessions ahead #oxsmc09 |
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3:53 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 = Oxford Social Media Convention |
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3:53 am
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jfarnhill:
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#oxsmc09 Let's see how this wireless network copes as everyone logs on ;-). |
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3:54 am
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andrewspong:
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Boggling at the fact that a SM conference hasn't alighted upon and previously advertised its hashtag. Doesn't augur well. #oxsmc09 |
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3:54 am
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maja_a:
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Hashtag for Oxford Social Media Convention is #oxsmc09 |
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3:55 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Dave Sifry of Technorati says that existing players in 2002 stuck in 'web is library' mode |
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3:56 am
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goulandris:
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Oxford social media convention today, nice speaker cast http://bit.ly/JMwBV #oxsmc09 |
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3:56 am
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billt:
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@thannigan hope we make it fun and worthwhile for everyone at #oxsmc09 #oxsoc |
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3:56 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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Dave Sifry of Technorati: "I wasn't interested in web as library but I was excited about web as conversation" #oxsmc09 |
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3:56 am
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CameronNeylon:
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The dif between this meeting and one I've been at for the rest of the week. As many laptops but people engaging not checking email #oxsmc09 |
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3:56 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@andrewspong That's what I was thinking. I was using #oii or #oxsoc - wrong! #oxsmc09 |
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3:57 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - First time I've been somewhere where 'geeks' are proud to be 'geeks'. WIll someone be wearing a suitable t-shirt? |
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3:57 am
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afrineurs:
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What is the current speakers blog ... didnt catch the name less the name #oxsmc09 |
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3:57 am
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maja_a:
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Dave Sifry talking about a) building Technocrati from two eBay-ed computers and a network connection & b) personal online presence. #oxsmc09 |
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3:57 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Sifry: web is a conversation (and great for finding out stuff about YOU!) |
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3:57 am
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aden_76:
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#oxsmc09 @dsifry on realtime search 'This is not your mother and fathers search' |
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3:58 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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Ah the new social web conference - panel tweets when not speaking. Bit of an iphone party. #oxsmc09 |
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3:58 am
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PeterBale:
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Technorati founder talking about difference between "usefulness" and "business model", reminds me of idea of pre-revenue business #oxsmc09 |
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3:59 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Tweeting on behalf of @tipexxed - fishing line concept. #oxsmc09 |
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4:00 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Bill Thompson from BBC sets up competition for who can set up a vibrant online community most successfully during the conference |
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4:00 am
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ricallan:
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meeting some very interesting people at the Oxford Social Media Convention #oxsmc09 today |
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4:00 am
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petecranston:
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Sifry from search to filter interface #oxsmc09 |
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4:00 am
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thannigan:
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wondering if Twitter would ever allow hashtags as extra meta tags that don't count in Tweet length; multiple tags per topic? #oxsmc #oxsmc09 |
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4:01 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Bill Thompson: Good technology = ?just what we do.? There are no conferences about fax machines. |
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4:01 am
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aden_76:
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#oxsmc09 'good technologies are just what we do...social media is not quite there yet' @billt |
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4:01 am
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rohanjay:
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foxed by random hashtagging, calls for order at the Oxford social media bunfight -is it #oii or #oxsoc or #oxsmc09? |
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4:01 am
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aden_76:
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#oxsmc09 'Why are there no conferences about fax machines?' @billt |
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4:01 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - "When something works there's no need for a conference; there's no conferences on fax machines" |
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4:01 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@thannigan No chance. Just need to be creative (or expand out using something else) #oxsmc09 |
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4:02 am
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Lottie748:
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#oxsmc09 nice analogy for searching - a net in an ocean or a fishing line in a stream! |
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4:03 am
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art:
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@ianrobertwaugh We have lots more videos/audio on http://webcast.oii.ox.ac.uk as well! #oxsmc09 |
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4:03 am
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kate_day:
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@billt: Good tech just becomes "what we do" rather than something to talk about in hushed tones #oxsmc09 - hope social media gets there soon |
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4:03 am
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maja_a:
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Bill Thompson (BBC) #oxsmc09 on the network as a facilitating service with high innovation potential due to low barriers to entry |
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4:03 am
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ianibbo:
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@aden_76 ooh.. enyoy #oxsmc09. Don't suppose we can get you to do an open conversation about it next #GeekUp? |
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4:04 am
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jfarnhill:
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For those from universities supporting Eduroam, there's a good signal at #oxsmc09. |
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4:04 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Thompson on impact of low barriers to entry: "remove the need to ?ask? and people do remarkable things" |
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4:04 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 africa about to be transformed by high speed internet cables. the next 1 billion people joining digital age |
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4:05 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Breaking News panel: @DSifry @billt @BiIIDutton @Nigel_Shadbolt chaired by @kcorrick |
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4:05 am
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aden_76:
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#oxsmc09 @billt 'Social media will look very different once the next 5 billion people get online' |
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4:05 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Breaking News panel: @DSifry @billt @BiIIDutton @Nigel_Shadbolt chaired by @kcorrick |
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4:05 am
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CameronNeylon:
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@Lottie748 but is it a fishing line or a net - and is anyone else helping us with it? #oxsmc09 |
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4:05 am
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briankelly:
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"If you remove the need to obtain permission, people will do exciting things". Bill Thompson (@billt) at #oxsmc09 |
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4:05 am
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felixrieseberg:
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#oxsmc09 This is not your IT departments introduction to web 2.0. Really, these people know what they are talking about... |
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4:05 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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I wonder what the radiation levels are like in here? All those Bluetooth and GSM connections #OXSMC09 |
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4:05 am
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VickiNashOII:
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The Oxford Social Media Convention is underway. Follow us! #oxsmc09. |
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4:06 am
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sangeet:
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Oxford Internet Institution Social Media Convention #oxsmc09 webcasts 2 b avail later |
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4:07 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @DSifry reminds us that real time searchers work differently from 'traditional' browsers - let's hope we here more on this. |
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4:07 am
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jfarnhill:
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How many people here knew of Twitter more than a year ago? Interesting question by Bill D #oxsmc09 |
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4:07 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @DSifry reminds us that real time searchers work differently from 'traditional' browsers - let's hope we hear more on this. |
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4:07 am
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aden_76:
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RT @briankelly: "If you remove the need to obtain permission, people will do exciting things". Bill Thompson (@billt) at #oxsmc09 |
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4:07 am
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PeterBale:
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Oh God. Someone just used the word "affordances" to describe Net technology at #oxsmc09 Now there is a "I was online in '74, '84, last week" |
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4:08 am
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andrewspong:
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Will be following @bengoldacre @cameronneylon @maxine_clarke sessions out of prof interest, & @billt's just because I like him :) #oxsmc09 |
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4:08 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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I think I heard somewhere that around 17 million households in the UK don't yet have broadband... can that be right? #oxsmc09 |
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4:08 am
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jstockwood:
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#oxsmc09 africa about to be transformed by high speed internet cables. the next 1 billion people joining digital age (via@BrockleyCentral) |
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4:09 am
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CameronNeylon:
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Has anyone worked up an iphone enhanced reality app so I can look down on audience and see where the tweets are coming from? #oxsmc09 |
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4:09 am
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billt:
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@andrewspong why thank you :-) #oxsmc09 |
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4:09 am
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afrineurs:
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Bill Thompson from BBC talks about African connectivity read more here http://bit.ly/2ia91R #oxsmc09 |
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4:09 am
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Dominic_Tyer:
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RT @andrewspong: Hoping #oxsmc09 focuses on SM's inclusive, many-to-many interactions, not gate-keeping, wrist-slapping SM mgrs/dirs |
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4:10 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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"35% of internet users have met someone online they hadn't met before" - that low? #oxsmc09 |
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4:10 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 reckon 20 of newly married met online |
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4:10 am
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RossIGrant:
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Don't trust 22% of UK pop blog figure. Just doesn't feel right - maybe that level of blogs (I have 5, 3 defunct) #oxsmc09 |
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4:10 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - Can you REALLY 'meet' someone online without doing so in the REAL world? |
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4:10 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Highly entertaining @billt says, once we don't require people to ask permission before they post online, they create great content. |
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4:11 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 20 percent, rather! |
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4:11 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Highly entertaining @billt says, once we don't require people to ask permission before they post online, they create great content. |
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4:11 am
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CameronNeylon:
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"Up to 20% of newly married people met their spouses online" #oxsmc09 |
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4:11 am
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sangeet:
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@billt great intro - #oxsmc09 social media still early days |
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4:11 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 @billt take-home msg; breaking down barriers-to-entry facilitates innovation |
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4:11 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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social networks now compete with search engines for referrals #oxsmc09 |
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4:11 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Bill Dutton: "We know Web 3.0 is coming we just don't know what it is!" |
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4:12 am
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briankelly:
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About to use Layar AR app on Android to see location of tweets at #oxsmc09 |
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4:12 am
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rpg7twit:
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*want* RT @CameronNeylon: ... an iphone enhanced reality app so can look down on audience & see where tweets are coming from? #oxsmc09 |
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4:12 am
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RossIGrant:
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Interesting to see so many screens only showing people's own tweets, not the fall - that's not conversation #oxsmc09 |
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4:12 am
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chapp:
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20% of couples marrying in Britain met online says @billdutton #oxsmc09 |
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4:12 am
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thannigan:
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Bill Dutton- insightful comments on Internet always being social. Is it a social beast currently going through adolescence? #oxsmc09 #oxsoc |
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4:12 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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@drgrahamwilson I would say that you can, but I'm not sure how you'd split a proper meeting with someone from an encounter #oxsmc09 |
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4:12 am
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kate_day:
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Up to 20% of recently married couples met their spouse online according to Bill Dutton of Oxford Internet Institute - wow! #oxsmc09 |
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4:13 am
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alpower:
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Discussion on how social media is creeping up on search engines in terms of link referrals - more trustworthy IMHO #oxsmc09 |
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4:13 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @BillDutton says Web 3.0 is coming...we just don't know when! |
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4:13 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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I feel slightly ill every time I hear the word 'Web 2.0'. Thinking 'Web 3.0' might be too much :/ #oxsmc09 |
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4:13 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @BillDutton says Web 3.0 is coming...we just don't know when! |
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4:13 am
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maja_a:
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W.Dutton (OII):networks reconfigure socializing:8-20% of marriages r net connections. #oxsmc09 Me:any stats on progressive legislation? :p |
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4:13 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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The whole process of developing relationships HAS changed. #OXSMC09 |
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4:13 am
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aden_76:
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first mention of web 3.0 at #oxsmc09 by @billdutton |
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4:14 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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@Lottie748 #oxsmc09 I thought you said you weren't going to tweet! |
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4:14 am
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blurky:
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Playing word bingo@social media conference and failing: ppl are more thoughtul than trendy. #oxsmc09 |
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4:14 am
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maja_a:
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@thannigan Using #oxsmc09 -- checking out the other one now. |
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4:14 am
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briankelly:
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http://twitpic.com/i5bzk - Have a look at this cool #layarscreenshot! [Layar link]: http://m.layar.com/open/tweepsaround #oxsmc09 |
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4:15 am
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CameronNeylon:
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@egonwillighagen 6% was the number across british society - but no - the data was not presented so I can't give you error bars #oxsmc09 |
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4:15 am
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simonh1000:
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Shadbolt: the unreasonable effectiveness of data #oxsmc09 |
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4:16 am
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billt:
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RT @briankelly: http://twitpic.com/i5bzk - Have a look at this cool #layarscreenshot! [Layar http://m.layar.com/open/tweepsaround #oxsmc09 |
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4:16 am
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briankelly:
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apols for rhetoric in previous tweet - generated by Layar AR app. Didn't find #oxsmc09 tweets, but ones from nearby |
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4:17 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 if you can't fix it feature it! |
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4:17 am
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jstockwood:
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#oxsmc09 @bdutton "6% of UK married people and 20% of newly married people met online" - 6.5 million people on Match in the UK. |
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4:18 am
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maja_a:
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If I understand Nigel Shadbolt (AI prof at Southampton), he says research is way behind practice #oxsmc09 |
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4:18 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - Self-publishing used to be a dirty word - Narcisism already mentioned - is this fear or does psychopathology need redefinition? |
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4:18 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 "engineers belive if it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features yet." yes you, facebook |
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4:18 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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Are new advances are hard to predict because they're flashes of inspiration, not planned developments? Route to market is so short! #oxsmc09 |
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4:18 am
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PeterBale:
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"If it ain't broke don't fix it" vs engineering view: "If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features" - Nigel Shadbolt at #oxsmc09 |
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4:18 am
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maja_a:
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Shadbolt: "if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet" #oxsmc09 |
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4:18 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @Nigel_Shadbolt says don't "overfeature" social web applications |
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4:18 am
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caffeinebomb:
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RT @RossIGrant: Interesting to see so many screens only showing people's own tweets, not the fall - that's not conversation #oxsmc09 |
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4:18 am
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luciatimes:
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RT @kate_day Up to 20% of recently married couples met spouse online according to Bill Dutton of Oxford Internet Institute - wow! #oxsmc09 |
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4:18 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @Nigel_Shadbolt says don't "overfeature" social web applications |
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4:19 am
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kate_day:
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Nigel Shadbolt (Prof of AI) says surprising that bloggers have wanted to microblog&take conversation down to atomic level #oxsmc09 |
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4:19 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Yes, this event #oxsmc09 is not about community building - this is about conference note taking in public. Sustainable? Unlikey. |
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4:20 am
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sangeet:
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will dutton: tech reconfigs how we communicate, who we comm with, n how we find info #oxsmc09 |
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4:20 am
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caffeinebomb:
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But there is a time and a place - and this is the perfect place for this sort of one sided discussion. Come on guys, challenge it! #oxsmc09 |
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4:21 am
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aden_76:
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'the battle is for our attention' @nigel_shadbolt #oxsmc09 |
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4:21 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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"do societal structures reemerge even in democratized technological context?" #oxsmc09 |
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4:21 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Taking conference notes here: http://jennifr.net/?p=383 - they are open to the vultures. Fight it, don't just take it for granted. #oxsmc09 |
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4:21 am
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Lottie748:
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Shadbolt: Battle for attention space - how true! #oxsmc09 |
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4:21 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @Nigel_Shadbolt jokes: Normal folk say if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers - if it ain't broke, it ain't got enough features |
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4:21 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @Nigel_Shadbolt jokes: Normal folk say if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers - if it ain't broke, it ain't got enough features |
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4:21 am
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briankelly:
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Who said Twitter is a "back channel"? @billt, panellist, is RTing me. #oxsmc09 |
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4:21 am
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aden_76:
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brilliant....@dougapd 's phone just went off at #oxsmc09! |
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4:22 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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@kate_day I find it funny that people still don't know why micro blogging is useful, and millions are doing it! #oxsmc09 |
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4:22 am
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maja_a:
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relief: when a cell phone rings in a crowded room and you realize it's not yours #oxsmc09 |
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4:22 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 all this technology should make our lives more efficient but the connection for attention from the technology now seem to be domin8 |
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4:23 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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round of applause for non twitterer?! #oxsmc09 |
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4:23 am
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caffeinebomb:
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HA HA! "I dont twitter" Thank for that! #oxsmc09 |
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4:23 am
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aden_76:
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someone just got an applause because they don't 'twitter' #oxsmc09 |
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4:23 am
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rasiej:
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A non Twitterer gets the loudest applause at #oxsmc09 |
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4:23 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Delegate said "I don't Twitter" and half the conferance applauded! |
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4:23 am
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HanTot:
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RT @aden_76: first mention of web 3.0 at #oxsmc09 by @billdutton <---- walk out Web 4.765 is where its happening |
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4:23 am
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maja_a:
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participants asked to introduce themselves with their Twitter name at #oxsmc09 |
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4:23 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Delegate said "I don't Twitter" and half the conferance applauded! |
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4:24 am
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blurky:
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Not twittering received applause @ conf. Oh well, the rest of us can applaud ourselves in the stream. #oxsmc09 |
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4:24 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - Can someone REALLY listen, tweet, and speak intelligently simultaneously? |
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4:25 am
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RossIGrant:
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"Do we need to learn Chinese" asks BBC gut, gets obvious answer, no just a good translator. #oxsmc09 |
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4:25 am
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maja_a:
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Thinks Bill Thompson's comment "Don't need to speak Chinese to use Internet" will be famous last words #oxsmc09 |
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4:25 am
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billt:
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@briankelly but of course... great image! #oxsmc09 |
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4:25 am
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afrineurs:
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Panel discussing Emerging Internet Markets(China & Africa) read and watch videos of this developments http://bit.ly/cOX4l #oxsmc09 |
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4:25 am
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RossIGrant:
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Twitterfall arrived but unreadable, wrong background and size, not got my binoculars #oxsmc09 |
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4:26 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@blurky I started it. You don't need to twitter. Each to their own. We're all experiencing difference "webs" #oxsmc09 |
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4:26 am
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thannigan:
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@drgrahamwilson my thoughts exactly. Multitasking this morning is overloading my limited cognitive capacity #OXSMC09 |
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4:26 am
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msdq:
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Could the colours possibly be changed for the more visually challenged of us? #oxsmc09 |
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4:26 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 Is English going to remain the standard langauge for discourse? Perhaps a new world-language will emerge thro network effects. |
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4:27 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - The impact on training technologies - no handouts, no time spent creating manuals |
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4:27 am
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aden_76:
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Maybe they should try Twazzup instead of Twitterfall for the back channel as its unreadable #oxsmc09 |
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4:27 am
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dgmacarthur:
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RT @CameronNeylon: "Up to 20% of newly married people met their spouses online" #oxsmc09 |
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4:27 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Hello guys. This sort of banter is going to be cringe-worthy in 20 years. Timelessness is required. Not just brands + websites. #oxsmc09 |
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4:27 am
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preater:
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YEAH! @helenthornber RT @briankelly: "If you remove the need to obtain permission, people will do exciting things". @billt at #oxsmc09 |
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4:28 am
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msdq:
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Thanks! #oxsmc09 |
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4:28 am
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janeite:
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RT @briankelly "If you remove the need to obtain permission, people will do exciting things". Bill Thompson (@billt) at #oxsmc09 |
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4:28 am
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maja_a:
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stands corrected after Nigel Shadbolt's point about "high fidelity" machine translation... #oxsmc09 |
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4:28 am
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billt:
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oooh - #oxsmc09 tweets are on the screen... shall I insult myself? Or try to tweet in Mandarin? |
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4:28 am
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tomharrow:
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RT @PeterBale: "If it ain't broke don't fix it" vs engineering view: "If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features" - #oxsmc09 |
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4:29 am
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franknorman:
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RT @briankelly "If you remove the need to obtain permission, people will do exciting things". Bill Thompson (@billt) at #oxsmc09 |
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4:29 am
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Lottie748:
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Couldn't agree more! RT: @drgrahamwilson #OXSMC09 - Can someone REALLY listen, tweet, and speak intelligently simultaneously? |
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4:30 am
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thannigan:
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#oxsmc09 if this is the hashtag being shown on screen, does this legitimate it? |
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4:30 am
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juliancheal:
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Enjoying following the tweets from #oxsmc09 @briankelly good use of Android |
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4:31 am
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billt:
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well, @Lottie748 I can try! #OXSMC09 |
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4:31 am
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timmaughan:
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Nice point about WOW, I wonder who many people here know what goldfarming is? #oxsmc09 |
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4:32 am
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bengoldacre:
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just emailed column in from #oxsmc09, 929 words but does torpedo a £6m government report. holding breath for cuts. |
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4:32 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 what about a hierachical namespace as in domain names? |
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4:32 am
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Martebjarte:
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RT @PeterBale: "If it ain't broke don't fix it" vs engineering view: "If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features" - Shadbolt #oxsmc09 |
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4:32 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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Widespread use of internet can have unintended consequences (e.g. WoW gold farming) democratised or can centralisation = xenophobia #oxsmc09 |
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4:32 am
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bengoldacre:
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just emailed column in from #oxsmc09, 929 words but does torpedo a multimillionpounds government report. holding breath for cuts. |
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4:32 am
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thannigan:
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@timmaughan goldfarming went over my head - thanks for explaining it #oxsmc09 |
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4:33 am
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billt:
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will web of ideas shrink because of internet efffect? NO! Not at all. #oxsmc09 |
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4:33 am
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caffeinebomb:
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I've only got one identity - a snarky, cynical git. Online and off. :-) #oxsmc09 |
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4:33 am
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nicnewman:
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Day out of office at Oxford social media conference. Already picked up 3 great insights. My brain only has room for 2 more #oxsmc09 |
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4:34 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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"the internet becomes more like real life" - isn't it just part of real life? #oxsmc09 |
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4:35 am
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VickiNashOII:
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Is it too distracting having the Twitter feed running in the background? We'll take a vote before the break. #oxsmc09 |
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4:35 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - Do we need to change our perspective on what is right and wrong? |
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4:35 am
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timmaughan:
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@thannigan good over view of gold farming here: http://bit.ly/47KJte #oxsmc09 |
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4:35 am
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billt:
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<rant>web is tool for serendipity</rant> #oxsmc09 #oxsoc |
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4:35 am
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graemehunter:
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don't knock goldfarming, could be one way out of the recession in this country for some people #oxsmc09 |
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4:35 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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Important to realise that all of the best online activities are those that support or link in to offline ones, I reckon. #oxsmc09 |
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4:36 am
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neokoenig:
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Tonnes of tweets coming through for Oxford Social Media Convention - follow #oxsmc09 |
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4:36 am
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caffeinebomb:
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My coffee and bacon roll over the road was more social than this media baby. #oxsmc09 |
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4:36 am
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blurky:
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Dear distracted audience: do you think the twitterfall should ASK a question or answer it. #oxsmc09 |
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4:36 am
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kate_day:
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Qu: will we just start copying more&limit original thought? @billt laughs&says it doesn't work like that, just the opposite #oxsmc09 |
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4:36 am
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thannigan:
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the social web seems like a dance; some lead, others follow, there are conventions/rules, but also serendipitous #oxsmc09 |
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4:36 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - Society's attitude to control, be private, to self-promote, narcisism, autism and other psychopathologies, are all changing |
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4:37 am
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aden_76:
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'the Internet is a tool for serendipity' @billt #oxsmc09 |
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4:37 am
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RossIGrant:
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@blurky Er, both. #oxsmc09 |
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4:37 am
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petecranston:
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Nigel shadbolt "AI = augmented intelligence" #oxsmc09 |
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4:37 am
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maja_a:
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Bar Camp format could be a good fit for next iteration of Social Media Convention #oxsmc09 |
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4:38 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Aw. We're giving people a voice who never had one. What, like journalists and academics? #oxsmc09 |
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4:38 am
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daveowhite:
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Seems clear from the panel discussion that it's too early to understand how social media works yet or what will happen next. #oxsmc09 |
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4:39 am
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rasiej:
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Looking forward to hearing Evgeny Morozov speak this afternoon at #oxsmc09 |
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4:39 am
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daveowhite:
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By 'early' I mean in terms of social history not that we haven't had coffee yet. :) #oxsmc09 |
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4:39 am
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pcockerton:
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Someone just texted bizarre question to 63336 from #oxsmc09. Sharing the answer: American idol is 202 times harder to get into than Harvard. |
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4:40 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Ever used Social media to engage with your local community? Because it sure as hell harder than checking out technotwati #oxsmc09 |
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4:40 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @DSifry says fragmentation of web not necessarily a problem, but bigger issue is trust of those sources. |
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4:40 am
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briankelly:
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Could someone run wthashtag on #oxsmc09 & report on no. of twitterers |
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4:40 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @DSifry says fragmentation of web not necessarily a problem, but bigger issue is trust of those sources. |
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4:41 am
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JeffreyPeel:
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Really sorry to be missing #oxsmc09 - was hoping to be there. Attendees, tune in to Government 2010 on October 22nd. http://g2010.co.uk |
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4:41 am
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MarketSentinel:
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#dsifry "the news finds you" #oxsmc09 |
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4:41 am
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Snarklife:
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@caffeinebomb yes, and celebrities. Super, innit? #oxsmc09 |
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4:41 am
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CameronNeylon:
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@billt: the web will provide challenges rather than simple reinforcement cos will be selecting from feeds connected at deeper level #oxsmc09 |
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4:41 am
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petecranston:
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RT @maja_a: Bar Camp format could be a good fit for next iteration of Social Media Convention #oxsmc09 ... Pleeease |
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4:41 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 tv (as we know it) will be gone 5-10 years from now, almost certainly |
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4:41 am
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billt:
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Bill Dutton picks up on fact that tv still exists. Maybe, but does it count now? #oxsmc09 |
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4:41 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Is social media undermining a human tendency to structure everything? Perhaps that's why #OXSMC09 is based on discussion panels? |
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4:41 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Yes networked individuals - we look at different screens, you can't tell people what is right or wrong. That's the fascinating bit. #oxsmc09 |
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4:41 am
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kate_day:
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@dsifry says news finds you now. If it's important enough I'll hear about it from my friends <-- hmmm. Really? #oxsmc09 |
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4:41 am
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eaitken:
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Ideas are not linked just because they are similar. We are exposed to contradictory ideas whether we like it or not @billt #oxsmc09 |
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4:42 am
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chrisbatt:
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RT @MarketSentinel: #dsifry "the news finds you" #oxsmc09 |
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4:42 am
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alpower:
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Do you trust news more from news media or friends on social media? Or is it a blend? #oxsmc09 |
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4:42 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 the celebrity cult will crumble under the long tail effect |
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4:42 am
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CameronNeylon:
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I would argue that the people who are successful will be those who effectively bring challenging and relevant info to their inbox #oxsmc09 |
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4:42 am
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rasiej:
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Question: Is television news and main stream media more accurate than Twitter feeds? #oxsmc09
# |
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4:42 am
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afrineurs:
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Bill Thompson Mass Media vs Internet who will win? #oxsmc09 |
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4:42 am
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maja_a:
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Bill Dutton on relationship of social media with accountability and transparency #oxsmc09 |
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4:43 am
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caffeinebomb:
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if you spend more time online, you watch less telly. But it doesn't mean it goes away because you aren't there. #oxsmc09 |
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4:43 am
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Jane_Howitt:
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Rats! Missed the Oxford Social Media Convention! Just have to follow it on Twitter. Looking for some fab Tweets, guys!! #oxsmc09 |
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4:43 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - We used to think that it was important to be able to structure, to see the big picture, to be strategic - no longer? |
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4:43 am
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billt:
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Just called twitterverse 'maggots'... might have overstated things at #oxsmc09.. meant it as a compliment.. |
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4:43 am
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PeterBale:
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A Guardian newspaper person talking about the "hollowing" out of TV? Gimme a break. #oxsmc09 BBC TV is better than ever, online or offline |
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4:43 am
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thannigan:
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Bill Dutton reminds us of institutional networks; important point, easy to get caught up with 'cyberbole' in this twitterverse #oxsmc09 |
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4:43 am
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billt:
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And now, ladies and gents, @Nico_Macdonald is up with a Q at #oxsmc09 - the morning is complete. |
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4:44 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 current questioner sounds likr dave gorman |
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4:44 am
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ianrobertwaugh:
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Did we ever 'trust' the media... or other individuals either? Getting the truth has always been about aggregating info in our heads #oxsmc09 |
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4:44 am
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aden_76:
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RT @paulmartinsmith: @aden_76 which makes Twitter / microblogging a 'Serendipty Lubricant' (quote @JonMell) #oxsmc09 |
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4:45 am
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caffeinebomb:
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LMAO RT @snarklife Am at a #oxsmc09. It's sponsored by match.com. You have to wonder why we all put our keys into a bowl on arrival. |
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4:45 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @billt Trust networks can build very quickly, but can be broken quickly too. They have changed the nature of news reporting totally |
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4:45 am
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billt:
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@PeterBale Err, I'm a multimedia hack actually, acquainted with all types.. #oxsmc09 |
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4:45 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @billt Trust networks can build very quickly, but can be broken quickly too. They have changed the nature of news reporting totally |
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4:45 am
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briankelly:
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http://twitpic.com/i5dhc - Have a look at this 2nd #layarscreenshot! [Layar link]: http://m.layar.com/open/tweetmondo from #oxsmc09. Fro ... |
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4:45 am
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CameronNeylon:
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@drgrahamwilson I think we need to structure things into narratives to get our human brains around them. We like telling stories. #oxsmc09 |
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4:45 am
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timmaughan:
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I'd like to think Twitter is killing TV but I know my heart will fall tomorrow when everyones tweeting about xfactor again #oxsmc09 |
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4:45 am
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Snarklife:
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@caffeinebomb actuallly, telly does go away if you don't watch it. And I speak as a former producer of several axed shows! #oxsmc09 |
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4:46 am
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alpower:
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Is that a question or a statement? #oxsmc09 |
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4:46 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - "I have an opinion - I don't care what other people think" - is this the political impact summarised? |
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4:46 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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@timmaughan There are allegedly plans for a Twitter TV show and new Terms of Service would enable this... worry... #oxsmc09 |
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4:46 am
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thannigan:
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comment heard nearby, "we've heard plenty of comments, what about questions?" #oxsmc09 |
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4:47 am
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purpleraindance:
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RT @Rasiej Question: Is television news and main stream media more accurate than Twitter feeds? #oxsmc09 # |
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4:47 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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It isn't just panellists who have the right to express an opinion #OXSMC09 |
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4:48 am
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Rchards:
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Web science diagram for online audience at #oxsmc09 http://webscience.org/cluster.php |
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4:48 am
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petecranston:
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RT @caffeinebomb: LMAO RT @snarklife at #oxsmc09. sponsored by match.com. You have to wonder why we all put our keys into a bowl on arrival. |
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4:48 am
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adrianstevenson:
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@briankelly http://wthashtag.com/Oxsmc09 - 71 at the mo #oxsmc09 |
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4:48 am
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mgarrood:
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Where do we draw the line between public and private data in a truly semantic web open to all? #oxsmc09 |
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4:48 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@Snarklife yes, true. Telly(economic model) as we know it is gone, but the medium exists in one form or another. #oxsmc09 |
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4:48 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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"We can overlook the usefulness of technical protocols for ensuring trust" #oxsmc09 |
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4:49 am
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NicolaMcNee:
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@briankelly Number of twitterers about 40 #oxsmc09 |
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4:50 am
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PeterBale:
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Nice to hear an academic like Nigel Shadbolt relishing unpredictability of net and users' capacity to surprise and defy analysis #oxsmc09 |
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4:50 am
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billt:
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will someone twitpic a photo of the panel for me? Want to check my hair at #oxsmc09... :-) |
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4:51 am
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bentoth:
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RT @briankelly "If you remove the need to obtain permission, people will do exciting things". Bill Thompson (@billt) at #oxsmc09 |
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4:51 am
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EvidenceMatters:
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rt @CameronNeylon I think we need to structure things into narratives to get our human brains around them. We like telling stories. #oxsmc09 |
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4:51 am
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jstockwood:
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Skoda owner meet me in the foyer? RT #oxsmc09. sponsored by match.com. You have to wonder why we all put our keys into a bowl on arrival. |
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4:51 am
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rasiej:
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Why are there are not more people of color at #oxsmc09?
Achieving diversity is still a major goal for events like these. |
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4:51 am
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maja_a:
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Audience question: is social media spilling into public policy (e.g. American healthcare debate)? #oxsmc09 |
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4:52 am
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daveowhite:
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@billt It looks great... #oxsmc09 Good use of technology btw. |
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4:52 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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thorny issue of free at the point of use web services being raised but interestingly framed as driver for public policy... #oxsmc09 |
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4:53 am
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PeterBale:
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Agenda for the Oxford Social Media conference but the blogs aren't active on it so Twitter hashtag better: #oxsmc09 http://bit.ly/JMwBV |
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4:53 am
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purpleraindance:
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RT #oxsmc09 @billt Trust networks can build very quickly, but can be broken quickly too. They changed the nature of news reporting totally |
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4:54 am
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Rchards:
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http://twitpic.com/i5dxz - View from back of room at #oxsmc09 for @billt |
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4:54 am
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Snarklife:
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@billt the bust of nelson mandela just frowned at you. I suspect you have a few hairs put of place at the back of your head. #oxsmc09 |
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4:54 am
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jordit:
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RT @billt: Bill Dutton picks up on fact that tv still exists. Maybe, but does it count now? #oxsmc09 |
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4:54 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@caffeinebomb I can hear a voice, crying in the wilderness... #oxsmc09 |
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4:55 am
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adrianstevenson:
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#oxsmc09 is the Oxford Social Media Convention 2009 http://tr.im/z2pw http://wthashtag.com/Oxsmc09 |
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4:56 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: conference notes: http://jennifr.net/?p=383 - open to the vultures. Fight it, don't just take it for granted. #oxsmc09 |
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4:56 am
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timmaughan:
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Content creators gotta eat #oxsmc09 |
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4:56 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 "murdoch doesn't understand the internet any more now than he did 15 years ago." |
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4:58 am
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thannigan:
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#oxsmc09 @billt thanks for pointing out the lone paying spotify user in the audience! |
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4:58 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 "advertising is doing well on the internet, it's just that it's not distributed properly." |
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4:59 am
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mgarrood:
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keep the feed #oxsmc09 |
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4:59 am
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RossIGrant:
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Twitter users don't cheer or clap but do put their hans up - keep the fall #oxsmc09 |
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4:59 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 twitter maggots win the vote |
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4:59 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @kate_day: Qu: will we just srt copying more&limit original thought? @billt laughs&says it doesn't work lk that, = the opposite #oxsmc09 |
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4:59 am
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sangeet:
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Charging 4 internet content futile- panel #oxsmc09 |
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5:00 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 question about users expectations of how they pay for the services they use in light of social media; cf. tv license fee |
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5:00 am
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thannigan:
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is it a question of fixed vs variable costs? Are we more willing to pay a one-time fixed fee for participation in discussion? #oxsmc09 |
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5:01 am
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caffeinebomb:
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HA HA! I said that ya git. The back channel is god! #oxsmc09 |
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5:02 am
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twitcapsbot:
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#oxsmc09 Real-time Image Stream @ http://twitcaps.com/s/%23oxsmc09 |
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5:02 am
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RossIGrant:
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Too cool for school guy too cool for Twitter shock. We're probably not missing you #oxsmc09 |
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5:02 am
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maja_a:
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Was wondering how long before Clay Shirky "stepped" into the conversation at #oxsmc09 :) eg Is a group its own worst NME? http://is.gd/3phOA |
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5:03 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 does back channel ~= covert channel http://bit.ly/fivEn |
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5:03 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@billt maggots good comparison. they eat out the corruption and cleanse the wound. excellent! kudos from a little maggot x #oxsmc09 |
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5:04 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Human being. We tend inoculate ourselves from the past. Need to be criticial, reflective whilst understanding what we are doing. #oxsmc09 |
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5:04 am
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lewisshepherd:
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Ah, our glorious realtime-context future: RT @billt will someone twitpic a photo of the panel for me? Want to check my hair at #oxsmc09 :-) |
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5:05 am
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FADLY_:
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Find out why "#oxsmc09" is trending here: http://fad.ly/97399 |
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5:05 am
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MarketSentinel:
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#oxsmc09 shadbolt: social media like plasma. What will be formed when it cools? Will it sustain life ;-) |
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5:05 am
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Jane_Howitt:
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RT @geoffbannister: #oxsmc09 @DSifry says fragmentation of web not necessarily a problem, but bigger issue is trust of those sources. |
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5:05 am
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caffeinebomb:
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We're skimming the surface. Don't believe the hype. See beyond it. Don't give up on the rest of us. #oxsmc09 |
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5:05 am
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revpamsmith:
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#oxsmc09 didnt anx women put their hands up? |
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5:06 am
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BobOHara:
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Worked for me! RT: @CameronNeylon: "Up to 20% of newly married people met their spouses online" #oxsmc09 |
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5:06 am
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caffeinebomb:
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These ain't conference notes. This is me just getting my rant on. Come on maggots, clean the corruption, don't let it happen. #oxsmc09 |
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5:07 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@revpamsmith #oxsmc09 didnt anx women put their hands up? - Not really, but spamming the #oxsmc09 is longer lasting. :-) |
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5:07 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Does trusting more, mean we are less critical or have other ways of accessing things? #OXSMC09 |
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5:07 am
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postdocal:
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to those in the conference room: will people pay for trusted sources? The variable costs for good info #oxsmc09 |
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5:08 am
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Rchards:
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@dsifry best way to do SEO - write better content #oxsmc09 |
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5:08 am
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msdq:
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@caffeinebomb Could someone wrap this feed in a cute cat video after to make it more universally palatable? Let's take this viral! #oxsmc09 |
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5:09 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 "seo sucks, right approach is create good content" the future is pr agencies! |
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5:09 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 coffee! |
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5:09 am
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whive:
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Great first session #oxsmc09 |
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5:10 am
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whatthetrend:
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Why is #oxsmc09 trending? Help explain why at What The Trend? http://wttrend.com/7583 |
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5:10 am
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MarketSentinel:
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#oxsmc09 @dsifry quotes clay shirky: if it can't be spammed it's not social media |
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5:10 am
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keithwilley:
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My Mrs cannot even charge her phone.. technology lock-in? RT @chapp: 20% of couples marrying in Britain met online says @billdutton #oxsmc09 |
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5:11 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@Rchards that photo http://twitpic.com/i5dxz took 2 mins to load on my rural #digitalbritain broadband connection! #oxsmc09 |
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5:11 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 people trust "people like me" most according to edelman trust study http://ow.ly/pWd8 |
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5:11 am
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eaitken:
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@postdocal paying doesn't guarantee authority, but it implies you value the info more. Paying gives it authority for you. #oxsmc09 |
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5:14 am
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Jane_Howitt:
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RT @axiomsofchoice: #oxsmc09 tv (as we know it) will be gone 5-10 years from now, almost certainly |
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5:15 am
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postdocal:
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@eaitken thanks - unfort. this practice conflates real value with perceived authority #oxsmc09 |
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5:17 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: We're skimming the surface. Don't believe the hype. See beyond it. Don't give up on the rest of us. #oxsmc09 |
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5:18 am
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LakesGarageDoor:
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RT @markattwood: #oxsmc09 "eaten out by the maggots of the twitterverse"! Brilliant @billt more here: http://tinyurl.com/mbtnn3 |
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5:18 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: not conference notes. just me getting my rant on. Come on maggots, clean the corruption, don't let it happen. #oxsmc09 |
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5:25 am
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ddlautner:
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what does #oxsmc09 mean? any1 tell meeeeeeee |
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5:28 am
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eaitken:
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#oxsmc09 is trending. Oxford social media convention. Assessing the evolution, impact and potential if social media. |
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5:30 am
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simonwj:
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At #oxsmc09 where Dave Sifry described people selling SEO as snake oil peddlers. sell SEO moi! |
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5:31 am
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navezwmn:
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Yahooo You can download State of Play* movie online here http://EZ.FbI.r4j.eu/t3 currency Uncle Kracker #oxsmc09 |
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5:36 am
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eaitken:
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Can we predict what might happen next or can we only gather data about what HAS happened and try to work out why in retrospect? #oxsmc09 |
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5:37 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Time for @bengoldacre's et al session on public dissemination of science and stuff. Been looking forward to this. #oxsmc09 #scidebate |
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5:37 am
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RossIGrant:
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Split session so now in Breaking News: The Changing Rel Between Blogs & Mainstream Media #oxsmc09 |
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5:38 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Of course, me being a smart arse - forgot my power source. Don't worry, G1 is fully loaded and ready for the afternoon. #oxsmc09 |
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5:39 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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How condescending when the chair of a session says "Your blog is worth a read" cf worth FOLLOWING #OXSMC09 |
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5:40 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The twitter stream has vanished in favour of a slide with names on it. Boo. Clap. #oxsmc09 |
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5:41 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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People are learning to trust their INTUITION and act on it. #OXSMC09 |
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5:41 am
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RossIGrant:
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@caffeinebomb schoolgirl error JJ #oxsmc09 |
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5:41 am
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eobodger:
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#oxsmc09 Clearly someone has to pay for content, but itmust be efficient. TV licence is expensive way to give govt hidden influence over BBC |
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5:42 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 Interesting when a panelist believes they have a right to jump the queue at coffee time. |
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5:42 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@caffeinebomb social media plonkers don't like maggots apparently #oxsmc09 |
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5:43 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Has this guy heard of webinars? #OXSMC09 |
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5:44 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@cyberdoyle They want to be the bubble. Be the bubble guys. #oxsmc09 |
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5:44 am
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martinskog:
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I do not understand anything people are saying about #oxsmc09 |
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5:45 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Interesting that panelists feel the need to express opinions as if they are authorities. There ARE alternative ways of being. #OXSMC09 |
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5:46 am
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caffeinebomb:
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What social tech needs is figures like @bengoldacre - help cut through the tripe and BS that emerges when smug people get together. #oxsmc09 |
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5:46 am
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RossIGrant:
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Images from plenary2 #oxsmc09 http://twitpic.com/i5gl5 http://twitpic.com/i5gof |
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5:47 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@alpower Sure - what session are you in? #oxsmc09 |
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5:47 am
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georgeroberts:
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ids, created today @lilli743 @reimer698 Tweets "About oxsmc09" and Manage oxsmc09 from are attacks! Now thick and fast from more #oxsmc09 |
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5:48 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Oh my goodness - "transparency" is SO 1980s. "Transparency is the new objectivity." #OXSMC09 |
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5:48 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Information is NOT journalism #OXSMC09 |
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5:48 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@drgrahamwilson Yes, I completely agree. If they are engaging online, all you need is a name to find them. Obsession with silos. #oxsmc09 |
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5:49 am
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timmaughan:
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Scientists still quite dull shocker? #oxsmc09 |
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5:49 am
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arfon:
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Listening to the Making science public session with Ben Goldacre, Cameron Neylon, Maxine Clark and Felix Reed- Tsochas at #oxsmc09 |
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5:50 am
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postdocal:
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@drgrahamwilson - again the problem of validity. We need better journalism as means of filtering information #oxsmc09 |
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5:50 am
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daveowhite:
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'Information is not journalism' I'm happy to be my own journalist then #oxsmc09 |
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5:51 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@timmaughan Surely communication is something that needs to be relevant in science, otherwise you end up condensing it to trivia. #oxsmc09 |
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5:51 am
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bengoldacre:
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ooh Nature makes authors deposit data in online repositories, or give it to anyone who asks. that's nice. #oxsmc09 |
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5:51 am
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RossIGrant:
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"Information is not journalism" can't get journalism from Twitter, journalism has disciplines applied to info #oxsmc09 |
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5:51 am
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maja_a:
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In "Making Science Public" session: Maxine Clarke from Nature Magazine explaining how they encourage authors to publish online #oxsmc09 |
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5:52 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @sambrook says: News agencies don't 'own' the news- now rely on soc networks for part of their work, Twitter correspondents etc |
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5:52 am
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jobucks:
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@ihatemornings #oxsmc09 come along Said Bus Sch. Lunch 12.45. Bring guitar. Spoke to Bill Dutton of Oxford Internet Inst.Want Twitter song |
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5:52 am
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bengoldacre:
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and Nature invite people to upload protocol, which shld be compulsory for all work before you start, before u even think of journal #oxsmc09 |
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5:52 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The vast majority of scientists I know BLOG - it's my way of accessing the subject. #oxsmc09 |
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5:53 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @sambrook says: News agencies don't 'own' the news- now rely on soc networks for part of their work, Twitter correspondents etc |
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5:53 am
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mgarrood:
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Listening to the Making Science Public: data sharing dissemination and public engagement with Science #oxsmc09 |
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5:53 am
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thannigan:
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@Maxine_Clarke suggests most scientists are not yet using social media #oxsmc09 |
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5:53 am
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billt:
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Hi @aden_76 I know my place! And @sambrook is always good value. #oxsmc09 |
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5:54 am
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caffeinebomb:
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And those who blog try to encourage their colleagues and students - not mainstream (in convential sense) but it exists. #oxsmc09 |
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5:54 am
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bengoldacre:
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#oxsmc09 speaker release form for podcast is 8 million pages long, possibly some kind of situationist joke |
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5:54 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - Apparently the canals are 'dead'. They haven't heard that there's a [another] citizen movement to rejuvenate them. |
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5:55 am
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blockbusterbuzz:
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RT @bengoldacre: ooh Nature makes authors deposit data in online repositories, or give it to anyone who asks. that's nice. #oxsmc09 |
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5:55 am
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aeratcliffe:
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RT @caffeinebomb: The vast majority of scientists I know BLOG - it's my way of accessing the subject. #oxsmc09 |
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5:55 am
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tonyratcliffe:
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RT @caffeinebomb: The vast majority of scientists I know BLOG - it's my way of accessing the subject. #oxsmc09 |
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5:56 am
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caffeinebomb:
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I'm glad not in journalism session - sounds like heard it all before. This is far more insightful - because it isn't in your face. #oxsmc09 |
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5:56 am
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bengoldacre:
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i've never spoken so little on a panel, feels like a massive deposit in the rant bank #oxsmc09 |
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5:57 am
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bengoldacre:
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cameron neylon's stories of doing open science really are pretty cool http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/ #oxsmc09 |
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5:57 am
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thannigan:
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#oxsmc09 the difference between hearsay and confirmed (institutional) information? Voice of Methodology? Trusted according to reputation? |
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5:57 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The online scientific community is large and wide-spread. It can be overlooked b/c the general public fail to understand process. #oxsmc09 |
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5:58 am
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caffeinebomb:
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RT @ liamgh @caffeinebomb Too right, blogs make academic work accessible to the rest of us! Journals are just too much. #oxsmc09 |
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5:58 am
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billt:
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@bengoldacre #oxsmc09 release is big itunes U release and big uni release too. And they want my address... surprised no fingerprint! |
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5:58 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @radicalcivility John Kelly talking about his book on citizen journalism: http://bit.ly/ETAlz |
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5:58 am
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thannigan:
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RT @bengoldacre:cameron neylon's stories of doing open science really are pretty cool http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/ #oxsmc09 |
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5:58 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @radicalcivility John Kelly talking about his book on citizen journalism: http://bit.ly/ETAlz |
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5:59 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Someone provoke Ben! ;-) RT @bengoldacre i've never spoken so little on a panel, feels like a massive deposit in the rant bank #oxsmc09 |
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5:59 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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RT @caffeinebomb: "This is far more insightful - because it isn't in your face." Amen. #oxsmc09 |
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6:00 am
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techpicnic:
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Now trending on Tech Picnic: #oxsmc09 http://bit.ly/We1p1 |
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6:00 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: RT @ liamgh @caffeinebomb 2 rt, blogs make academic work accessible 2 the rest of us! Journals R just 2 much. #oxsmc09 |
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6:01 am
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AntArch:
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RT @bengoldacre: @cameronneylon's stories of doing open science are pretty cool #oxsmc09 http://bit.ly/2RlbJ1 Yah Cameron. #nesta #crucible |
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6:01 am
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f1000:
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^SP sez: I'm finally online at social media conf, not bad so far, now in science session. Tweet #oxsmc09, i don't have twit login" ^rpg |
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6:01 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Nature: academics don't join online discussions on their sites. Academic: those conversations are happening elsewhere (blogs etc) |
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6:02 am
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IanYorston:
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#oxsmc09 twitter stream
Colour scheme needs fixing !
#oxsmc09 |
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6:02 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@caffeinebomb my brother co-writes a scientific journal. double dutch. he then talks about it & it makes sense. blogs r great tools #oxsmc09 |
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6:02 am
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andrewspong:
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@MelindaKenneway FriendFeed's The Life Scientists group being a case in point #oxsmc09 |
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6:04 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@cyberdoyle People like @AJCann and @jobadge at UoL (and their network) have plugged me into a community + made science accessible. #oxsmc09 |
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6:05 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 direct engagement is the way forward but scientists should not try to speak down to the general public |
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6:05 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - What makes a 'quality' comment? People's opinions are not just based on what they read. |
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6:06 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Journalists: "Democracy will fail if we fail." #OXSMC09 |
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6:07 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Producing to the niche geeky audience - but not forcing academics to publicly engage. #oxsmc09 |
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6:07 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @radicalcivility John Kelly says journalists need to be better at labelling content posted - is it verified, unsubstantiated? |
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6:08 am
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kate_day:
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Biggest mistakes haven't come from being2quick but being2 wrong says John Kelly.U can still b wrong after months of trad journalism #oxsmc09 |
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6:08 am
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Lottie748:
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#oxsmc09 generally the primary source for scientific journalists is a press release! |
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6:08 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @radicalcivility John Kelly says journalists need to be better at labelling content posted - is it verified, unsubstantiated? |
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6:08 am
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aden_76:
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laptop and wifi have fallen out @mistameena you will be happy now #OXSMC09 |
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6:08 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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@andrewspong #oxsmc09 Publishers are struggling to define their role in the online conversation. Do they have one? |
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6:08 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Oh please. Quality issue. If a scientist is blogging, then they are going to be reliable. It's easy to spot an idiot. #oxsmc09 |
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6:09 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Hmm?! If information isn't journalism, what are Reuters doing starting up an opinion stream? Moving into JOURNALISM! #OXSMC09 |
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6:09 am
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axiomsofchoice:
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#oxsmc09 citizen science could be the way forward for engaging non-scientists in the questions science is trying to answer |
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6:10 am
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RadleyChronicle:
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#oxsmc09 John Kelly says journalists need to be better at labelling content posted - is it verified, unsubstantiated? via @geoffbannister |
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6:10 am
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thannigan:
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@drgrahamwilson is quality determined post-hoc? Is it possible to predict quality? (ie. do credientials ultimately determine it?) #oxsmc09 |
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6:10 am
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andrewspong:
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@MelindaKenneway I'm the wrong person to pose that Q to :) http://is.gd/3ppVU #oxsmc09 |
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6:10 am
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luciatimes:
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Thank you for the awesome #oxsmc09 updates @kate_day |
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6:10 am
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MrsBunz:
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"We have to get used to the corrected tweet." Indeed we have to. But we got used to the correction columns as well. We can do this! #oxsmc09 |
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6:10 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Apparently the only science bloggers you should trust is listened in Open Science book - eh, really? Open in a closed way #oxsmc09 |
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6:11 am
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kate_day:
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Jonathan Ford of Reuters explains that finance blogs were huge leap, both coming out from behind paywall&expressing opinion #oxsmc09 |
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6:11 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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RT @thannigan: Is quality determined post-hoc? Is it possible to predict quality? (ie. do credientials ultimately determine it?) #oxsmc09 |
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6:12 am
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tipexxed:
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Which journalists? RT @drgrahamwilson: Journalists: "Democracy will fail if we fail." Do 'journalists' = 'newspapers' ? #oxsmc09 |
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6:12 am
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galaxyzoo:
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RT #oxsmc09 citizen science could be the way forward for engaging non-scientists in the questions science is trying to answer |
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6:14 am
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kate_day:
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Are finance blogs a good model for how to reach a sophisticated, specialist audience? And rebuilding trust that MSM lost? #oxsmc09 |
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6:14 am
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bengoldacre:
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#oxsmc09 great thought from half me and half cameron, dont say "public engagement", engagement is also interdisciplinary nerd communication |
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6:15 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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@andrewspong #oxsmc09 You look pretty qualified to me, but I see where you're coming from! |
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6:15 am
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chrisbatt:
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RT @galaxyzoo: RT #oxsmc09 citizen science could be the way forward for engaging non-scientists in the questions science is trying to answer |
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6:17 am
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DanThomasUK:
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what is #oxsmc09 ? |
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6:17 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 - Bankers using blogs to regain trust in themselves. In whose mind? |
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6:17 am
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zangrvum:
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Finally download >Terminator Salvation< movie online here http://E.6dQ.r4j.eu/t2 disputes VanessaFerlito #oxsmc09 |
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6:20 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 gets 1st spam! Terminator Salvation worms its way into the stream (ironic, given its a movie about dystopian robots) |
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6:20 am
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thannigan:
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social media for citizens, SM for scientists; SM for bankers; I wonder how long SM will remain a unified mashed-up public sphere? #oxsmc09 |
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6:20 am
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Rchards:
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Where are the UK versions of http://rodrik.typepad.com/ ? Is there really a big difference between social and physical sciences? #oxsmc09 |
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6:21 am
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socialtechno:
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Good thought from @bengoldacre dont say "public engagement" #oxsmc09 Engage is a horrid word; reminds me of 'Brave New World' |
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6:21 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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An online portal onto the internet... Reuters plan to vet peoples' opinions for us. Isn't that censorship? #OXSMC09 |
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6:21 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Quite depressing if online interaction only exists when people are networking to look for job. If it works, you stick with it. #oxsmc09 |
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6:22 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Why the feck does it always return to 'making money' - shift your expectations. #oxsmc09 |
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6:22 am
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bengoldacre:
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#oxsmc09 is oxfordsocialmedia convention btw, ignore my tweets for next few hrs if it bores you... there shld be a way to go stealth 4 this |
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6:23 am
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neokoenig:
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@blurky there's loads more aswell, lots of "about #oxsmc09" with some tinyURL: classic twitter trending spam/malware |
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6:23 am
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chrisbatt:
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RT @axiomsofchoice: #oxsmc09 direct engagement is the way forward but scientists should not try to speak down to the general public |
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6:24 am
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timmaughan:
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@caffeinebomb because baby needs shoes? #oxsmc09 |
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6:24 am
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Etche_homo:
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RT @bengoldacre cameron neylon's stories of doing open science really are pretty cool http://blog.openwetware.org... #oxsmc09 |
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6:24 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Experiences are personalised. if I invest time in people, the return on investment is other people's time. Value for me. #oxsmc09 |
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6:24 am
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PeterBale:
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Is it just me or is Oxford Social Media #oxsmc09 really disappointing? One way, pontification, self-evident "revelations" |
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6:25 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Jonathan Ford, Reuters Comm Editor, talks of how credit crunch sped up importance of citizen bloggers- his blog http://bit.ly/U8R3R |
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6:25 am
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Dan_10v11:
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Jonathan Ford Reuters: Growth of financial blogs partly because ppl felt journalists had become too close to the financial industry #oxsmc09 |
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6:25 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Jonathan Ford, Reuters Comm Editor, talks of how credit crunch sped up importance of citizen bloggers- his blog http://bit.ly/U8R3R |
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6:25 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Session on the FUTURE OF SOCIAL MEDIA hijacked by journalists in a retrospective defence. #OXSMC09 |
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6:25 am
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jaspersharpe:
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RT @bengoldacre #oxsmc09 is oxfordsocialmedia convention btw, ignore my tweets for next few hrs if it bores you... AH I SEE! |
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6:26 am
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Stephen_Curry:
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RT @bengoldacre: cameron neylon's stories of doing open science are pretty cool http://tinyurl.com/6h5xn2 #oxsmc09 |
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6:26 am
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aden_76:
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RT @caffeinebomb: Why the feck does it always return to 'making money' - shift your expectations. #oxsmc09 |
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6:27 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: O please. Quality issue. If a scientist is blogging, then they R going 2 B reliable. It's easy 2 spot an idiot. #oxsmc09 |
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6:27 am
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egrommet:
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@Dan_10v11 hah, interesting point - financial reporters as embedded ? #oxsmc09 |
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6:27 am
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be_b:
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scientists using social media, reputational risks - politics of publishing and academia interfere #oxsmc09 |
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6:28 am
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caffeinebomb:
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RT @stuartgh @me ah its back to money, well you are sitting in a busischool, in recession, why worry when there's a mini web boom?! #oxsmc09 |
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6:29 am
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zenbuffy:
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@bengoldacre They could always http://twittersnooze.com/ for a day, if not interested in the #oxsmc09 updates, or filter them out. |
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6:30 am
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daveowhite:
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Seems to me that #oxsmc09 is where trad media power and social media come together. Its like a cultural tide fight. |
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6:30 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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"Journalism is in a crisis of credibility" but is THAT why we are here? #OXSMC09 |
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6:30 am
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andrewspong:
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'We don't care about your business model' is not a statement that scholarly publishers are good at engaging with #oxsmc09 |
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6:30 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 my first question: peer-review / double blind = blog inhibitor? |
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6:30 am
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AntibodyBoy:
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Wikipedia?! Horrified RT @bengoldacre: cameron neylon's stories of doing open science are pretty cool http://tinyurl.com/6h5xn2 #oxsmc09 |
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6:30 am
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RossIGrant:
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RT @egrommet: @Dan_10v11 hah, interesting point - financial reporters as embedded ? #oxsmc09 |
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6:31 am
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Dan_10v11:
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@egrommet Ford also mentioned the appointment of journalists by hedge funds to write stories. #oxsmc09 |
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6:31 am
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stuartbasten:
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#oxsmc09 Until the senior academics/treasury officials who run RAE retire/die, we're going to struggle. |
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6:31 am
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emmapsych:
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Cut 95% of peer review papers? Sure but isn't it a different 95% for each person? #oxsmc09 |
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6:31 am
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chrisbatt:
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@Bengoldacre Peer review is the best of a bad lot #oxsmc09 |
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6:31 am
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aden_76:
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My back hurts from sitting on the floor. Is there a Massuese around? #oxsmc09 |
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6:32 am
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RossIGrant:
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Come to a conference & become a speaker by getting your "question" in #oxsmc09 |
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6:32 am
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chrislintott:
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Getting behind #oxsmc09 campaign to ban talk of 'public' vs scientists. Can we get rid of 'outreach' too? |
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6:33 am
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caffeinebomb:
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God bless the back channel. RT @RossIGrant Come to a conference & become a speaker by getting your "question" in #oxsmc09 |
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6:33 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: Why the feck does it always return to 'making money' - shift your expectations. #oxsmc09 |
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6:33 am
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bengoldacre:
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#oxsmc09 @maxine_clark says 300 neuroscience journals have formed a consortium to share peer reviews, like a clearing system, interesting |
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6:33 am
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RadleyPhysics:
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Good article on "The Open Laboratory" http://bit.ly/qHMl7 #oxsmc09 |
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6:34 am
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billt:
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Enjoying John Kelly's wit and insight at #oxsmc09 news/blogging session. |
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6:34 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @bengoldacre: #oxsmc09 is oxfordsocialmedia convention btw, ignore my tweets 4 nxt few hrs if it bores U. thr shld B a way 2 go stealth |
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6:35 am
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caffeinebomb:
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What's for lunch? I hope Oxford put on a nice spread for the voice of 2009. Corperate sponsors FTW! #oxsmc09 |
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6:35 am
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afrineurs:
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Pambazuka.org asks a question about racist approach to reporting news in Africa (Obamas Ideas about this http://bit.ly/un6Jb) #oxsmc09 |
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6:35 am
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billt:
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"Would it help if I explained.. I work for Google" (audience action at #oxsmc09) - he is describing book search commercial model & payments |
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6:36 am
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caffeinebomb:
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People don't comment when they don't feel they are part of the conversation. Many nature's SNS is a ghetto? #oxsmc09 |
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6:36 am
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RossIGrant:
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Someone from google explains book model - in US copyright out of print, to be distributed via web (micro pay/ad driven) #oxsmc09 |
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6:37 am
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jbhathaw:
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RT @bengoldacre: #oxsmc09 @maxine_clark says 300 neuroscience journals have formed consortium to share peer reviews, like a clearing system |
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6:37 am
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Epizootic:
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RT @bengoldacre: #oxsmc09 @maxine_clark says 300 neuroscience journals have formed consortium to share peer reviews, like a clearing system |
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6:38 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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RT @caffeinebomb: "People don't comment when they don't feel they are part of the conversation." Spot on. #oxsmc09 |
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6:38 am
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caffeinebomb:
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You'd like the conversation to be less fragmented, but, it isn't - it's just not happening on your trad web real estate. Aggregate. #oxsmc09 |
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6:39 am
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thannigan:
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#oxsmc09 Science-session conversation drifting towards technological determinism. I would hope Twitter in back demonstrates tech bricolage |
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6:39 am
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Snarklife:
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#oxsmc09 people don't comment on sci papers cos there's no community mangement. That's what happens when you leave the marshalling to eds. |
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6:39 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Dinosaurs will die. #oxsmc09 |
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6:39 am
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RossIGrant:
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Richard Sambrook jumps in to say BBC costs £142.50 per year (rather than free) - before anyone else I suspect #oxsmc09 |
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6:39 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 @sambrook makes really good defence of citizen bloggers holding 'traditional' correspondents to account. |
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6:40 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 @sambrook makes really good defence of citizen bloggers holding 'traditional' correspondents to account. |
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6:40 am
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caffeinebomb:
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RT @Snarklife #oxsmc09 people don't commnt on sci papers cos there's no commuity mangemnt. That's what happens when leave marshalling to eds |
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6:40 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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NB The difference between a "journalist", "correspondent", and "reporter" and the citizen in that community. YES. #OXSMC09 |
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6:41 am
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SaintSteven:
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@AJCann Thank you: most useful, a facility I wasn't aware of. Now I know what #oxsmc09 is . |
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6:41 am
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blurky:
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@caffeinebomb #oxsmc09 Ghetto implies exclusion by powerful outsiders, not powerful insiders. A country club may be a better metaphor. |
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6:42 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Idea of academic microcredit. Rational rewards. Paid in appreciation in 'cv' points. #oxsmc09 |
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6:42 am
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RossIGrant:
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Academic admits hard for them to ask short question - then asks long question, preamble, commentary etc... You've proved you point #oxsmc09 |
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6:42 am
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aden_76:
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The definition of short here seems to be very different to the rest of the world #oxsmc09 |
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6:43 am
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PeterBale:
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Richard Sambrook from BBC is a breath of fresh air in journalism: transparency is the new objectivity #oxsmc09 |
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6:43 am
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chrisbatt:
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RT @caffeinebomb: Idea of academic microcredit. Rational rewards. Paid in appreciation in 'cv' points. #oxsmc09 |
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6:43 am
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Snarklife:
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@caffeinebomb yes, yes, yes. The key to all commmunity management is reward. Be it kudos, financial or career / social advancement. #oxsmc09 |
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6:43 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@blurky good point. But the best part is that you can just get on with it without interaction with it. Credit where credit due. #oxsmc09 |
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6:44 am
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be_b:
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micro-crediting strategies and acknowledging public audiences as some kind of peers could promote scientists' use of social meida #oxsmc09 |
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6:44 am
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eobodger:
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@sambrook BBC Costs far less than £142/year -- we waste a fortune collecting it. #oxsmc09 |
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6:45 am
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alpower:
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Seems a science version of stackoverflow (programming Q/A) with kudos system for peer review might work or break down barriers #oxsmc09 |
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6:45 am
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Dan_10v11:
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If 'transparency is the new objectivity' what will this mean in the long term for the BBC's conception of impartiality #oxsmc09 |
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6:45 am
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PeterBale:
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Will Google be the iTunes of #journalism? Asks Guardian's Mercedes Bunz at #oxsmc09. Nice analogy. Hope not. |
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6:45 am
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annab27:
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Recommend checking out #oxsmc09 feed |
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6:45 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@Snarklife and yet, people are doing it and reaping benefits - and yet, wider institution (eg uni, gov +marketing) can't accept it #oxsmc09 |
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6:45 am
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graemehunter:
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Any credit at all is good seo for yourself #oxsmc09 |
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6:45 am
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aden_76:
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'Google wave will be a perfect tool for citizen journalism' interesting.....#oxsmc09 |
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6:46 am
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kate_day:
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Mercedes Bunz from media guardian says Google Wave will be the perfect tool for citizen journalism #oxsmc09 |
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6:46 am
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Dan_10v11:
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If 'transparency is the new objectivity' what will this mean in the long term for the BBC's conception of impartiality? #oxsmc09 |
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6:46 am
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maja_a:
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Two #oxsmc09 participants asked about BarCamp. See http://is.gd/3ptIB People like @istrategylabs are fabulous at organizing them / can help. |
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6:47 am
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RossIGrant:
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I'm in a university so accept academics will ask questions, but surprised they do not understand the concept of "short question" #oxsmc09 |
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6:47 am
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postdocal:
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@caffeinebomb blogging creates a kind of academic microcredit, but pretty well totally undervalued by promotion/tenure structure #oxsmc09 |
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6:47 am
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AJCann:
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RT @caffeinebomb: Idea of academic microcredit. Rational rewards. Paid in appreciation in 'cv' points. #oxsmc09 |
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6:48 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Am in room full of people presumably used to writing headlines, but no-one seems to be able to ask a short question. |
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6:48 am
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tipexxed:
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RT @aden_76: 'Google wave will be a perfect tool for citizen journalism' interesting.....#oxsmc09 [me] Interesting but probably wrong |
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6:48 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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"What is 'new' about the internet?" I thought this conference was about SOCIAL MEDIA? The internet one was about 20 years ago. #OXSMC09 |
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6:49 am
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timmaughan:
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RT @RossIGrant: accept academics will ask questions, but surprised they do not understand the concept of "short question" #oxsmc09 |
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6:50 am
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bengoldacre:
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just referenced xkcd on a panel #oxsmc09 http://xkcd.com/386/ |
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6:50 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@postdocal possibly, but for me, blogging allows me to network beyond dept and local. Found jobs and funds in this way. :-) #oxsmc09 |
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6:50 am
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RossIGrant:
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@sambrook the cost to me is still £142, so that's the cost - perhaps collect it cheaper & we'll split the difference #oxsmc09 |
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6:50 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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"Journalists should do more information and less comment." #OXSMC09 |
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6:51 am
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daveowhite:
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Please can somebody make it lunchtime #oxsmc09 |
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6:52 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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"If you want a voice in the public space - there is no barrier to entry now." #OXSMC09 |
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6:54 am
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tipexxed:
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Who asked that last question about commercial newsrooms and transparency? #oxsmc09 |
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6:55 am
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adamread:
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@daveowhite hope your #oxsmc09 queue isn't as long as #altc2009 ! |
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6:56 am
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thomcummings:
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RT @bengoldacre: just referenced xkcd on a panel #oxsmc09 http://xkcd.com/386/ |
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6:56 am
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jamestoon:
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like this notion somehow RT: @caffeinebomb: Idea of academic microcredit. Rational rewards. Paid in appreciation in 'cv' points. #oxsmc09 |
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6:56 am
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postdocal:
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@caffeinebomb - blogging was great during PhD research, but I was told off for publishing results on blog. WTF? Now renegotiating #oxsmc09 |
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6:57 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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"When will old media stop whining about new media?" #OXSMC09 |
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6:57 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 ft bloke seems to be labouring under the misunderstanding that blogs don't break stories. |
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6:57 am
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RossIGrant:
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Wind it up, people drifting away, metaphorically & literally. #oxsmc09 |
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6:57 am
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aden_76:
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'When will old media quite whining about new media' @kswisher #oxsmc09 |
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6:58 am
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PeterBale:
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"Can u give me the exact date when old media will stop whining about new media?" asksf fab Kara Swisher at #oxsmc09 |
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6:58 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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experience (of the web and social media) = trust (from earlier pre-science session) #oxsmc09 |
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6:59 am
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AnneFaulkner:
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Audience member socks it to panel at #oxsmc09: when are old media going to stop whining about new media? Got round of applause.. |
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6:59 am
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RossIGrant:
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All it seems to take to be a "new" journalist is a blog; suddenly not "old". Good news for @martinskog & @ianwishart #oxsmc09 |
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7:00 am
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Snarklife:
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#oxsmc09 run out to indulge non-gluten-lunch needs but will be back. Come say hi to chap in orange-striped suit, smoking outside in 20 mins |
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7:00 am
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jstockwood:
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RT @PeterBale: "Can u give me the exact date when old media will stop whining about new media?" Kara Swisher at #oxsmc09 |
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7:02 am
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stuartgh:
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@caffeinebomb My quick & dirty case for mini web boom - see my blog post http://bit.ly/4u2Au9 - pls scroll past the swallow pic! #oxsmc09 |
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7:04 am
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BrockleyCentral:
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#oxsmc09 people don't trust types of media, they trust individual media brands |
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7:05 am
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Chris_Surridge:
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RT @AnneFaulkner Audience member socks it to panel at #oxsmc09: when are old media going to stop whining about new media? |
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7:29 am
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metzkerpnwz:
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xahh u can watch Terminator Salvation@ movie online here http://c0.fYI.r4j.eu/t2 favorite PiperPerabo #oxsmc09 |
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7:36 am
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julie_bee:
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cameron neylon's stories of doing open science really are cool http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/ #oxsmc09 (RT@bengoldacre) |
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7:36 am
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ACrockett:
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@bengoldacre #oxsmc09 300 journals share peer reviews. Hmmm is that a good thing? |
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7:40 am
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julie_bee:
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@cameronneylon 's stories of doing open science really are cool http://blog.openwetware.org/scienceintheopen/ #oxsmc09 (RT@bengoldacre) |
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7:41 am
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scottkeir:
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Am I the only one of my geek friends not at #oxsmc09 ? Those there: how did you hear about it and others? |
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7:43 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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#OXSMC09 Are Journalists otherwise known as "anti-social media people"? |
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7:44 am
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daveowhite:
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Finished my very-tricky-to-eat-standing-holding-a-plate-and-a-fork lunch at #oxsmc09 now wired to the web as wifi is down. |
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7:46 am
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petecranston:
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aaaah, cable, access to the internet: smug bastard @ #oxsmc09 |
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7:47 am
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caffeinebomb:
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#oxsmc09 LMAO RT @jamiepotter Best Gmail spam title ever: "Magnetic toilet paper" How did they know I shit nuts and bolts? |
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7:49 am
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art:
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Busy reporting the hashtag spammers to @spam #oxsmc09 |
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7:49 am
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ianwishart:
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Hooray! RT @RossIGrant All it seems to take to be a "new" journalist is a blog; Good news for @martinskog and @ianwishart #oxsmc09 |
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7:50 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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RT @caffeinebomb: #oxsmc09 "Magnetic toilet paper" How did they know I shit nuts and bolts? [Ironically, she said with a steely expression] |
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7:51 am
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whive:
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Welcomes you to social media site http://www.whive.com #oxsmc09 |
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7:52 am
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kubke:
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Laughing way too hard! RT @bengoldacre: just referenced xkcd on a panel #oxsmc09 http://xkcd.com/386/ |
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7:52 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Who gets attention on social media? Surprise surprise, existing media voices. #oxsmc09 |
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7:54 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@jamiepotter I'm been a git. It's funny to add humour to serious hashtag. (According to Thompson, 2008) :-) #oxsmc09 |
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7:55 am
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megpickard:
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In the "social media, so what?" session at #oxsmc09 http://yfrog.com/0xojuj |
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7:55 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Why do people contribute to blogs and social media? They WANT to HELP and don't expect payment! Awesome - tell bankers. #OXSMC09 |
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7:56 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 PM session beginning on 'Social media, so what? Assessing the impact of blogs and social media' |
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7:57 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 PM session beginning on 'Social media, so what? Assessing the impact of blogs and social media' |
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7:57 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Social media and the absence of checks and balances. #OXSMC09 |
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7:58 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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How governments are embracing e-petitions (eg No10 & Alan Turing last week) #OXSMC09 |
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7:58 am
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aden_76:
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tweet volume reduced significantly due to wifi fail #oxsmc09 |
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7:58 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@postdocal that's awful. Share with the world with CC (and when it comes to phd work, only niche interested anyway!) #oxsmc09 |
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7:59 am
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bertil_hatt:
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@blurky #oxsmc09 Answering would be more modern ? but I can't hear anything from here. |
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7:59 am
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hashtager:
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# @jamiepotter I'm been a git. It's funny to add humour to serious hashtag. (According to Thompson, 2008) :-) #oxsmc09 |
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7:59 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Projected 3% vote to the German Pirate Party as evidence of the impact of Social Media - another democratic aspect - #OXSMC09 |
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8:00 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Stefan Niggemeier of BILDblog http://www.bildblog.de/ talking about how bloggers hold Das Bild newspaper to account. |
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8:00 am
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RossIGrant:
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Strength of Pirate Party (through SM from nowhere) in DE given as strength of social media #oxsmc09 |
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8:00 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Stefan Niggemeier of BILDblog http://www.bildblog.de/ talking about how bloggers hold Das Bild newspaper to account. |
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8:00 am
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briankelly:
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Fragmented discussions at #oxsmc09 and #oxsmc. Former is official & more widely used. |
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8:00 am
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MahalloMedia:
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# # @jamiepotter I'm been a git. It's funny to add humour to serious hashtag. (According to Thompson, 2008) :-) #oxsmc09 |
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8:02 am
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petecranston:
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clerics training on social media skills in Qom. #oxsmc09 |
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8:02 am
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CameronNeylon:
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How to stress test your wifi network - hold a social media conference (I'm ok, on a different network due to my other conference) #oxsmc09 |
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8:03 am
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RossIGrant:
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Evgeny Morozov: 200,000 Chinese party paid trollers. Iran doing the same. Internet not all democratising. #oxsmc09 |
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8:05 am
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timmaughan:
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Best point of the day so far: Facebook more effective than torture #oxsmc09 |
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8:05 am
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postdocal:
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@bertil_hatt I have never been modern. but I agree that answering is better. #oxsmc09 |
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8:06 am
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petecranston:
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Evgeny Morozov @ #oxsmc09 great range of data to balance the debate on the positive impacts of Soc media, purgative almost |
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8:06 am
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Irida:
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RT @kate_day Mercedes Bunz from media guardian says Google Wave will be the perfect tool for citizen journalism #oxsmc09 |
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8:07 am
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RossIGrant:
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Iranian authorities have great information collected on Twitter revolutionaries, they are now using. #oxsmc09 |
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8:08 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Human beings use tools to be human beings - nothing big there. So what's facebook got to do with it in grand scheme? #oxsmc09 |
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8:08 am
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petecranston:
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evgeny morozov reference http://evgenymorozov.com/blog/ #oxsmc09 |
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8:09 am
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mikeyferg:
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Just arrived at Oxford Social Media Convention. A little late, but people seem enthralled (or updating their Facebook status!) #oxsmc09 |
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8:09 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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OMG - someone has developed a tool to encourage longer-term relationships on the web. Better call RELATE! #OXSMC09 |
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8:09 am
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msdq:
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In Combibos. Anyone want a slice of cake? #oxsmc09 |
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8:10 am
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caffeinebomb:
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I want to put a computer in my brain so I don't need power socket and can go further than local chat.. that'd be fun. #oxsmc09 |
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8:11 am
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petecranston:
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Richard Allen quotes me on SocNet as Glastonbury....er, though doesn't admit it #oxsmc09 |
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8:11 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 - Richard Allen - social media shifting metaphor from "bar" (local interest) to "festival" (multi-interest, networked). |
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8:11 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@stuarthoughton yeah, but so what? It's superficial. Facebook is a platform, we all use it differently. Impossible to generalise. #oxsmc09 |
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8:13 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Wow! That's arrogant - "I'm going to make a bigger point." #OXSMC09 |
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8:13 am
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stuarthoughton:
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@caffeinebomb sorry, that was just a joke. #oxsmc09 #flippantcommentsoffthecuff |
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8:13 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Finally. Some fu*king sense. We're in a business school in oxford. Low barriers to entry my arse. #oxsmc09 |
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8:14 am
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kate_day:
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Richard Allan (facebook) thinks there is political potential in social media&maintaing friendships over time that blogs didn't have #oxsmc09 |
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8:14 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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And again "Six people have spoken about low barriers to entry. I don't care how smart they are... I don't agree with them." #OXSMC09 |
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8:14 am
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bertil_hatt:
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Over-heard quotes from #oxsmc09 are an exercice in re-contextualisation. Some know the speaker, etc. |
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8:14 am
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Snarklife:
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Sorry, but Tony Benn only gets heads at Glasto because he is, essentially, a celebrity. It all comes down to that. #oxsmc09 |
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8:14 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@stuarthoughton he he. Caught me off guard. No worries, hard to get context when you are listening to more than one channel. ;-) #oxsmc09 |
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8:15 am
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art:
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@bertil_hatt I'm at the camera now, there will be videos soon after the conference #oxsmc09 |
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8:17 am
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AnneFaulkner:
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Enjoying Matthew Hindman from Arizona Uni arguing barriers to entry to digital and social media extremely high #oxsmc09 |
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8:17 am
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kate_day:
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Matthew Hindman (Arizona State uni): in est areas of Internet, barriers to entry are extremely high which creates 'choke points' #oxsmc09 |
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8:17 am
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Nigel_Shadbolt:
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Matthew Hindman reminds us just what the barrier to entry is for something like the Google play #oxsmc09 |
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8:18 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Do you think the barrier to talk about social media (and indeed the internet) is low? #oxsmc09 |
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8:18 am
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Rchards:
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Wondering whether this chap's stats accord with those on oxis, and how they correlate with income #oxsmc09 |
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8:18 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 Matt Hindman low barrier to entry = myth, cosider Google's spending, exclusionary scales. He's not happy with this. |
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8:19 am
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Nigel_Shadbolt:
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simply because we have a strong market for ideas doesn't mean everyone has real market access #oxsmc09 |
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8:20 am
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Snarklife:
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Re reaching out to lunchpail workers. That's where MOBILE comes in. Builders don't have PCs. They do have phones. #oxsmc09 |
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8:20 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Matthew Hindman, Pol Science Dept at Ariz State Uni http://bit.ly/11VXja making case against view of 'low barriers' to net entry. |
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8:20 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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RT @caffeinebomb: "Do you think the barrier to talk about social media is low?" - yes, anyone can regardless of IQ - #oxsmc09 |
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8:20 am
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caffeinebomb:
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RT @Snarklife Re reaching out to lunchpail workers. That's where MOBILE comes in. Builders don't have PCs. They do have phones. #oxsmc09 |
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8:20 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Matthew Hindman, Pol Science Dept at Ariz State Uni http://bit.ly/11VXja making case against view of 'low barriers' to net entry. |
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8:21 am
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briankelly:
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http://twitpic.com/i5s1s - "Obahma campaign was centralised" So is this session at #oxsmc09 |
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8:21 am
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RossIGrant:
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Barak Obama's campaign most centralised in US history because of the internet - Matthew Hindman #oxsmc09 |
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8:21 am
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bertil_hatt:
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RT @art: @bertil_hatt [...] videos soon after the conference #oxsmc09 ? :^D I can go back to work, then. (PS: can you sync tweets to feed?) |
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8:22 am
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petecranston:
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certainly hearing insiders describing Obama's campain bears out Hindman at #oxsmc09 claim that it was the most top-down, controlled campaign |
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8:23 am
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petecranston:
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RT @briankelly: http://twitpic.com/i5s1s - "Obahma campaign was centralised" So is this session at #oxsmc09 ... 95% of the brains hearing 5% |
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8:23 am
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emmapsych:
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#oxsmc09 most though provoking session so far, finally real effort to move beyond trite |
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8:24 am
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Snarklife:
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I'll go further. I'm disappointed how little mobile has been mentioned today. Phones are 100% social. Todays topics seem dated. #oxsmc09 |
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8:24 am
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bertil_hatt:
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RT [Many at #oxsmc09] Matt Hindman ?low barrier to entry = myth? Massively disagreed w. his previous talk, but this idea seems refreshing. |
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8:26 am
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dsifry:
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Most interesting #oxsmc09 discussion so far, debate about assessing the impact of blogs and social media. |
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8:26 am
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dsifry:
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Matthew Hindman and Evgeny Morozov pushing the limits of the benefits of social media tech. #oxsmc09 |
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8:26 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Is 'complexity' the same as 'cost of entry'? #OXSMC09 |
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8:26 am
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Snarklife:
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FINALLY someone says it. 2.0 isn't democratic cos getting heard relies on celebrity endorsement, marketing or offline popularity #oxsmc09 |
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8:27 am
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dsifry:
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Hindman making claim that indeed you have to ask permission to be heard by lots of people in the blogosphere (I TOTALLY DISAGREE) #oxsmc09 |
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8:27 am
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petecranston:
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@Snarklife but isn't it the 360 connections that make socnet: phone is a platform - see www.mxit.com #oxsmc09 |
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8:27 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Can someone explain to me what the cost of entry specifically has to do with the IMPACT of Social Media? #OXSMC09 |
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8:27 am
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thannigan:
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#oxsmc09 Matthew Hindman,"in old media, when you speak audience listens" -methinks 'viral' media focuses on content, less on credentials |
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8:28 am
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emilychiang:
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RT @bengoldacre: just referenced xkcd on a panel #oxsmc09 http://xkcd.com/386/ |
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8:28 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Twitterfall is back. Please don't take it away again. Especially when we don't have wifi. #wailsoftheenabled #oxsmc09 |
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8:28 am
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kate_day:
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Matthew Hindman makes interesting point:the move from publishing to filtering info being the barrier doesn't mean society is open #oxsmc09 |
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8:28 am
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postdocal:
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@snarklife Globally, phones lower barrier to entry for social media, other applications see @mobileactive #oxsmc09 |
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8:30 am
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RossIGrant:
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Someone has GoBro moment at #oxsmc09 & embarassingly still using Nokia tune ringtone. Do a General Jackson & throw it. |
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8:30 am
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timmaughan:
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Hindman saying you need endorsement to succeed online shows lack of vision/balls #oxsmc09 |
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8:31 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Interesting point that in oppressed societies, the issue is the regime not the internet and how it enables communications. #OXSMC09 |
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8:31 am
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kcorrick:
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RT kate_day M Hindman makes interesting point:the move from publishing to filtering info being the barrier doesn't mean soc is open #oxsmc09 |
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8:31 am
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aeratcliffe:
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@drgrahamwilson Our local media (Edmonton, Canada) is embracing social media. #OXSMC09 |
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8:32 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Ok look, everyone in this room can witter and reflect about social media (and the internet) it does not maketh a conference. #oxsmc09 |
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8:32 am
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RossIGrant:
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Ease of access to gov't info raised - obviously not tried getting an FoI answered? #oxsmc09 |
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8:32 am
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CameronNeylon:
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Fascinating conv. on Thursday night how utopian elements of this discussion recapitulates US political discussions of late 18C #oxsmc09 |
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8:35 am
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EZF_Executives:
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RT @dsifry: Matthew Hindman and Evgeny Morozov pushing the limits of the benefits of social media tech. #oxsmc09 |
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8:35 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Matthew Hindman says you do need permission to publish on web in order to get audience-surely it's just case of writing good copy? |
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8:36 am
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kcorrick:
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Tis good, healthy stuff RT @dsifry: Matthew Hindman and Evgeny Morozov pushing the limits of the benefits of social media tech. #oxsmc09 |
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8:36 am
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txtcraigbellamy:
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Mathew Hindman is a refreshing e-democracy thinker #oxsmc09 |
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8:36 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Social media = conversation cf web generally = library. #OXSMC09 |
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8:37 am
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sbsjrc:
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#oxsmc09 it seems to me the issue has to do with helping groups to co-ordinate political action on the internet...? |
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8:37 am
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petecranston:
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Allen "is it disempowering not to be part of the conversation..." do we need to ask? #oxsmc09 |
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8:37 am
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kcorrick:
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Agree. http://www.matthewhindman.com/ RT @txtcraigbellamy: Mathew Hindman is a refreshing e-democracy thinker #oxsmc09 |
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8:38 am
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revpamsmith:
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#oxsmc09 @timmaughan getting rdrs 4 a blog is a f/t job! |
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8:39 am
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sbsjrc:
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#oxsmc09 briefly mentioned so far the role of businesses, are they interested in political action? |
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8:39 am
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rasiej:
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Organized minorities are always more powerful than disorganized majorities regardless of the power of social media #oxsmc09 |
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8:39 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Point being made about democatisation of cyber-weapons and crime, and how it's being used for political means. |
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8:40 am
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EZF_Executives:
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RT @dsifry: Most interesting #oxsmc09 discussion so far, debate about assessing the impact of blogs and social media. |
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8:40 am
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jstockwood:
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The Democratizing power of the web simplified by Richard Allen "it's empowering to be part of the conversation". Simple. #oxsmc09 |
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8:40 am
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TheLostCupcake:
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RT @Rasiej: Organized minorities are always more powerful than disorganized majorities regardless of the power of social media #oxsmc09 |
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8:41 am
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dsifry:
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Morozov with some great discussion of cyberwar and how it affects social media & infrastructure, e.g. Russiavs.Georgia, USvs.Iran #oxsmc09 |
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8:41 am
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chrisbatt:
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RT @rasiej: Organized minorities are always more powerful than disorganized majorities regardless of the power of social media #oxsmc09 |
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8:42 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Q: unintended consequences in political decision making sphere-what's the impact of real time public scrutiny of political debate? |
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8:42 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 all media are social, social media are social mediators. Apologies for the pseudo-rant, rather than question. |
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8:43 am
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timmaughan:
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@revpamsmith is a lot of work, but not f/t in my experience. Content is king etc #oxsmc09 |
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8:43 am
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mikeyferg:
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Luckily my brain is not in my thumbs or I might miss something interesting! #oxsmc09 |
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8:44 am
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thannigan:
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@Rasiej social media is the bread and butter of 'social movements' #oxsmc09 |
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8:44 am
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eaitken:
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Question at #oxsmc09 - does real-time scrutiny improve quality of political debate? |
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8:44 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 As to previous Q re. real time + political debate: TV has been doing this [and radio], eg. televising Parliament. |
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8:44 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Yes, we need context. RT @jamiepotter Sounds like social media conferences are dying/dead. #oxsmc09 |
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8:45 am
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petecranston:
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To Stefan of BILTblog: if you could see real-time what your audience are commenting on Twitter would it make a difference? #oxsmc09 |
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8:45 am
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EmmaClarey:
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RT@jstockwood The Democratizing power of the web simplified by Richard Allen "it's empowering to be part of the conversation". #oxsmc09 |
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8:46 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 The US healthcare debate shows how myths are propagated + require their own momentum. eg. Sarah Palin's FB page. |
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8:47 am
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revpamsmith:
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#oxsmc09 @timmaughan but is it d best use of yr time? |
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8:47 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Real-time empirical evidence shows increased polarisation. Matthew Hindman. |
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8:47 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: There is no wifi at #oxsmc09 - if we can't get it at oxford uni, what hope does rural #digitalbritain have? |
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8:47 am
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clk_:
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interesting but "biased towards politics" discussion. what about education, businesses and other social activities? #oxsmc09 |
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8:48 am
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kate_day:
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Evgeny Morozov worries that ppl online are talking about misunderstandings/myths - don't they do that in the pub? #oxsmc09 |
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8:48 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The conversation has captured @tipexxed to use twitter to search for #bestfishandchips - omg twitter rocks. :-):-):-) #oxsmc09 |
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8:49 am
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MarketSentinel:
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#oxsmc09 Yevgeny Morozov suggests social media has actually reduced quality of healthcare debate |
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8:49 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 hindman: internet = extreme polarization. (I say effective mediators create totalizing media frameworks - 'TiVo as politics') |
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8:49 am
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timmaughan:
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@revpamsmith well both me and my readers enjoy it, so yes. Why wouldn't it be? #oxsmc09 |
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8:50 am
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rasiej:
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Most Politicians don't know the difference between a server and a waiter.
Social media is the new town square except for them. #oxsmc09 |
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8:50 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Q from @Nico_Macdonald: what is the overestimation of social media + democracy undermine it? |
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8:50 am
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lisallynch:
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Oxford social media conference is #oxsmc09 |
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8:51 am
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kate_day:
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RT @cyberdoyle: RT @caffeinebomb: There is no wifi at #oxsmc09 - I'm lovin the Kate MiFi (sorry) :) |
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8:51 am
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RossIGrant:
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Politics takes place at a local level as well as national. #oxsmc09 and #bestfishandchips = Grimsby Fisheries, Welford Rd, Leicester |
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8:51 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@CameronNeylon good warning shot for olympics, stress test the wifi in #digitalbritain in andvance, bandwidth needed #oxsmc09 |
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8:51 am
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kcorrick:
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RT @kate_day: Evgeny Morozov worries that ppl online are talking about misunderstandings/myths - don't they do that in the pub? #oxsmc09 |
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8:52 am
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kcorrick:
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@clk_ Do ask something on this. As great question #oxsmc09 |
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8:52 am
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jamiepotter:
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I should have said they've gone stagnant rather than dying, actually? #oxsmc09 |
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8:53 am
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RossIGrant:
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Re low political participation for info local by-election turnout in Leicester last week 12.65% #oxsmc09 |
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8:53 am
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pdanderson:
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@briankelly hi brian, wthashtag gives 700 tweets and 155 contributors for #oxsmc09 |
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8:53 am
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petecranston:
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Hindman: chatting to your friends, emailing and consuming porn make up most of what people (other people, of course) do online #oxsmc09 |
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8:54 am
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Afine:
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RT @Rasiej: Most Politicians don't know the difference btwn a server and a waiter.Social media =new town square except for them. #oxsmc09 |
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8:54 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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Surely the issue of relevance is one for politicians not for social media? People care about issues, not power clique activity #oxsmc09 |
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8:54 am
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caffeinebomb:
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I swear to god, we had the same chat about blogs and democracy - jan 2007. Well, I am sitting next to my ex local councillor. #oxsmc09 |
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8:56 am
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RossIGrant:
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Democracy from a Twitter account may come if political institutions/people communicated that way - but few do (yet) #oxsmc09 |
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8:56 am
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kcorrick:
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@caffeinebomb There were noises before that too. Councillor.info and other individual councillor sites appeared. #oxsmc09 |
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8:57 am
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ingridk:
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RT @caffeinebomb: I swear to god, had same chat about blogs and democracy - jan 2007. Well, I am sitting next to my ex local cllr. #oxsmc09 |
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8:57 am
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nick_skelton:
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RT @briankelly "If you remove the need to obtain permission, people will do exciting things". Bill Thompson (@billt) at #oxsmc09 |
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8:57 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Richard Allen points out that when people are happy with the government there is generally less engagement in politics. |
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8:57 am
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rasiej:
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#oxsmc09 Does technology change the way people engage about politics?
Com'on why is this even a question. |
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8:57 am
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caffeinebomb:
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I have a automatic groan, programmed when the words 'facebook groups' are present in dialogue. #oxsmc09 |
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8:58 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Evgeny Morozov: engagement w/ web groups eg FB good cause groups, can let users feel they have made difference when they haven't. |
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8:58 am
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suchprettyeyes:
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In social media and democracy it is ideas not tools that matter #oxsmc09 |
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8:58 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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"If you want to get an audience, don't spend money on SEO, but say something useful." #OXSMC09 |
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8:58 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Evgeny Morozov: engagement w/ web groups eg FB good cause groups, can let users feel they have made difference when they haven't. |
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8:58 am
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RossIGrant:
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Facebbok group ignored by Leicester Council despite relatively high sign-up. Then again old (media) ignored too! #oxsmc09 |
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8:59 am
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AnneFaulkner:
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#oxsmc09 Matthew Hindman has talked a lot of sense today |
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8:59 am
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petecranston:
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RT @RossIGrant: Facebbok group ignored by Leicester Council despite relatively high sign-up. Then again old (media) ignored too! #oxsmc09 |
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8:59 am
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clk_:
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RT suchprettyeyes: In social media and democracy it is ideas not tools that matter #oxsmc09 |
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9:00 am
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hashtagit:
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New hashtag, #oxsmc09, added by What the Trend - http://bit.ly/3VUWMa |
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9:00 am
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MahalloMedia:
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# New hashtag, #oxsmc09, added by What the Trend - http://bit.ly/3VUWMa |
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9:00 am
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rasiej:
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#oxsmc09 test |
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9:02 am
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RossIGrant:
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RT @OLAcademy: #oxsmc09 Evgeny Morozov: web groups eg FB good cause groups, can let users feel they have made difference when they haven't. |
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9:03 am
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Snarklife:
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#oxsmc09 could all smokers please report for duty outside. Not enough people here. |
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9:06 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @caffeinebomb: Ok look, everyone in ths room cn witter & reflect abt social media (and internet) it does not maketh a conference #oxsmc09 |
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9:09 am
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ianwishart:
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Here's an example of a journalist with a blog: http://wp.me/4g8a Is this the future?? #oxsmc09 |
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9:20 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@CameronNeylon o well that's ok then. thanks. poor old non #digitalbritain #oxsmc09 can the scientists save us? |
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9:23 am
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eaitken:
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#oxsmc09 next session. The growth of the corporate blog - letting go of information control or maintaining the official line? |
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9:30 am
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timmaughan:
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About to start the corporate blog panel at #oxsmc09 which is why I'm really here, I guess *dons sensible work head* |
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9:33 am
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aden_76:
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The growth of the corporate blog session at #oxsmc09 |
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9:33 am
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iaindale:
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If you want to follow my session at the Oxford Social Media Conference follow #oxsmc09 |
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9:35 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Laptop monitor flickering...I cannae hold her cap'n, she's breaking up, she's breaking up! |
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9:36 am
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newtagdefs:
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#oxsmc09 http://cli.gs/hXn0N : The Oxford Social Media Convention 2009 happens 18th September 2009 |
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9:37 am
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caffeinebomb:
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One more session and then we're off. Not bothering about predicting blogs in 20 years. Id hope we'd be beyond that. #oxsmc09 |
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9:38 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Politics and social media. Let's predict the panel discussion. Obama? #oxsmc09 |
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9:39 am
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mikeyferg:
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Kara Swisher ~Social media is not an add on, it is the game. Mobile is the future. #oxsmc09 |
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9:39 am
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RossIGrant:
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What has Iain Dale et al got to say at #oxsmc09 re impact of political social media? |
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9:39 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 New session: politics and social media - on the panel - Matthew McGregor, Iain Dale, Helen Margetts + Andrew Rasiej |
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9:40 am
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caffeinebomb:
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I'm sitting next to tory councillor. Never in a million years. Beyond trad politics surely. #oxsmc09 |
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9:40 am
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eaitken:
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#oxsmc09 Kara Swisher New media is not complimentary or additive - it's the whole game. |
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9:40 am
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caffeinebomb:
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RT @jamiepotter @caffeinebomb Iran? #oxsmc09 |
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9:41 am
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PeterBale:
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Sorry,wrong hashtag:Is it just me or is Oxford Social Media #oxsmc09 really disappointing? One way pontification, self-evident "revelations" |
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9:41 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Sorry, but this is a little dated. We're focused on old topics - the need to 'critically' view the 'net etc, democratization, etc. #OXSMC09 |
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9:41 am
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RossIGrant:
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Political parties only existing online - not the campaigns I've been part of. Membership in complete decline, er no #oxsmc09. |
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9:42 am
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kcorrick:
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Over on the other panel RT @eaitken: #oxsmc09 Kara Swisher New media is not complimentary or additive - it's the whole game. |
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9:42 am
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chapp:
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Fascinating, opinionated, even notorious speakers here at the Oxford Social Media Conference #oxsmc09 |
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9:42 am
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RossIGrant:
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Let them speak! #oxsmc09 |
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9:42 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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What about the ways that social media ARE benefitting society - enabling information sharing, collaboration, medical, educational #OXSMC09 |
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9:43 am
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RossIGrant:
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And we're off #oxsmc09 |
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9:43 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 "Policiticans don't know the difference btw a server and a waiter." Rasiej [audience chuckles]. |
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9:44 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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"A global publishing platform for most of humanity." "Let's stop worrying about the trivialities." #OXSMC09 |
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9:44 am
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briankelly:
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@PeterBale left #oxsmc09 early cos I too was disappointed with the event. |
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9:45 am
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JohnKelly:
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Mark Rogers actually addressing the title of his panel, perhaps a first here (including even my panel, I must admit) #oxsmc09 |
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9:45 am
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PeterBale:
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Why do I even still care that people like John Lloyd think #journalism is a priesthood with secret knowledge and right to survive? #oxsmc09 |
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9:45 am
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Alheri:
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In the end guys, did I lose much by missing #oxsmc09? If so, what were highlights? |
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9:47 am
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JohnKelly:
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Note to self: In future, try to be Kara Swisher. #oxsmc09 |
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9:47 am
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britishlibrary:
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At Oxford Social Media Convention discussing the ?Corporate Blog? #oxsmc09 |
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9:47 am
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kcorrick:
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RT @PeterBale: y do I even still care that ppl lk John Lloyd think #journalism is a priesthood w/ secret knowledge & rt 2 survive? #oxsmc09 |
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9:47 am
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petecranston:
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so at least one of the lessons of #oxsmc09 is to have displays for panellists so they don't have to crane their necks to read twitterfall |
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9:48 am
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mikeyferg:
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A Californian talking bad about GM. That's new. #oxsmc09 |
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9:53 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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If you have a sharp brain, it is a delicate tightrope - use it +vely for long-term good or use it 'sharply' & get quick laughs. #OXSMC09 |
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9:54 am
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britishlibrary:
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Surprise your customers by doing a good job! #oxsmc09 |
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9:54 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 McGregor - having a website is *not* having a strategy. |
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9:54 am
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CameronNeylon:
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Mark Rogers "Sometimes as a company your best contribution to social media is just to deliver your product right" #oxsmc09 |
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9:54 am
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emmapsych:
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@kcorrick 9 out of 10 VIEWS rather than 9/10 videos I think #oxsmc09 |
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9:54 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@chriscondron damn straight. Engage with the comments and help them grow into ideas. Or get drunk 2.0 :-) #oxsmc09 |
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9:55 am
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Samdansie:
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RT @ianwishart: a journalist with a blog: http://wp.me/4g8a Is this the future?? #oxsmc09 - he look s a bit stressed, mind |
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9:55 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The corperate blog session sounds like my idea of hell. #oxsmc09 |
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9:56 am
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eaitken:
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Using social media needn't mean Twittering. It can mean doing sthing that is noteworthy enough for your customers to Twitter about #oxsmc09 |
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9:56 am
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badgerboy69:
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RT @kcorrick: #oxsmc09 Raseij - 9/10 political videos in the 08 US election were voter generated. |
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9:56 am
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kcorrick:
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@emmapsych #oxsmc09 I think he said videos not views re 9/10. Can anyone else in the room confirm? |
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9:57 am
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chriscondron:
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#oxsmc09 all looks a bit 'Meh too!' but anyone picking up tweets from the broadcast big dog catfight at RTS Cambridge? |
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9:57 am
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RossIGrant:
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Centre-right blogs have long had dissent from party - no dark holes. #oxsmc09 |
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9:57 am
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timmaughan:
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@caffeinebomb sitting next to a Tory councillor sounds like mine #oxsmc09 |
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9:58 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Like what Matthew McGregor is saying but it's hard to see beyond gesture politics. Voting count still low - BNP still got in. #oxsmc09 |
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9:58 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 McGregor - "as a campaigner civil engagement is good, but we want to win". |
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9:58 am
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emmapsych:
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The first figure was 1.5 billion view of political vids. Second figure 150 million of candidate vids. Hence 9/10. #oxsmc09 |
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9:59 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 McGregor - the sm tools you use have to fit in to your overall campaign strategy. The voices have to be authentic + honest. |
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9:59 am
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chriscondron:
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@caffeinebomb Mutually exclusive? Shurely massive boozy postive feedback loop? #oxsmc09 |
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10:00 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 McGregor - people don't want to be passive recipients of new media. The tools have their use but their not a panacea solution. |
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10:00 am
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britishlibrary:
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RT @CameronNeylon: Mark Rogers "as a company your best contribution to social media is just to deliver your product right" #oxsmc09 |
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10:01 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 @iaindale "Most politicians don't know their RSS from their elbow" [audience chuckles] |
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10:01 am
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petecranston:
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Dale "politicians dont' know their RSS from their elbows" #oxsmc09 |
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10:01 am
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RossIGrant:
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Iain Dale - politicians don't trust Internet, risk averse. #oxsmc09 |
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10:02 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Oh dear. Now we only want the rest of the participants to ask questions. Isn't the point of this about open dialogue? #OXSMC09 |
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10:02 am
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RossIGrant:
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Only party who can mobilise via Internet BNP (Dale) #oxsmc09 |
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10:02 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 @iaindale The only party in the UK who really understand the internet are the BNP. (unfortunately). The 3 main parties don't. |
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10:03 am
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rasiej:
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"politicians don't know the difference between their RSS and their elbow"
via Ian Dale at #oxsmc09 |
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10:03 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The only party who use internet sucessfully are the BNP. The other parties are too interested in pushing. BNP are enabling. Eek! #oxsmc09 |
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10:03 am
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kate_day:
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@iaindale says politicians r frightened of social media.Only BNP know how to mobilise ppl online-other parties r just transmitting #oxsmc09 |
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10:03 am
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clk_:
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only 3 questions and "make them questions, not comments" corporate blogging #oxsmc09 |
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10:03 am
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RossIGrant:
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Politicians fail to understand they can bypass mainstream media #oxsmc09 |
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10:04 am
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evgenymorozov:
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Cyber-nationalism is one phenomenon I forgot to mention in my talk at #oxsmc09 - glad Ian Dale mentions BNP's Internet strategy |
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10:05 am
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RossIGrant:
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RT @rasiej: "politicians don't know the difference between their RSS and their elbow"
via Ian Dale at #oxsmc09 |
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10:05 am
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timmaughan:
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@caffeinebomb and then you need to see beyond trad stereotypes of bussiness, no? #oxsmc09 |
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10:05 am
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kate_day:
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Will the next election be the first Internet election? No, says @iaindale Email will still be the most important thing #oxsmc09 |
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10:05 am
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clk_:
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interesting question... what abt sme's? corporate blogging #oxsmc09 |
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10:05 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 @iaindale The killer app is EMAIL. [KC agrees. Obama data shows this too, will try and dig out link]. |
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10:06 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Enjoying @iandale's no nonsense advice. #oxsmc09 |
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10:07 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Oh dear... SMEs and SM - "You can use it to talk about what your business is good about." Rocket science - this is NOT! #OXSMC09 |
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10:07 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 - What about emotion in politics? I think BNP succeed there b/c they can get ppl worked up the way policy docs don't. |
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10:07 am
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caffeinebomb:
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They are apparently going to increase transparency (whatever party wins) slight contrast to bullshit #threestrikes policy #oxsmc09 |
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10:07 am
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JohnKelly:
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#oxsmc09 attendees may be interested in this report, from Pew center on internet: http://bit.ly/6Rsvb Echoes a lot of what we've heard today |
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10:08 am
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Hels55:
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@booksellercrow RT @britishlibrarySurprise your customers by doing a good job! #oxsmc09 |
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10:09 am
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RossIGrant:
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Politicians not even scratched the surface of possibilities of internet #oxsmc09 |
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10:09 am
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clk_:
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Kara addressing the stupidity question, corporate blogging #oxsmc09 |
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10:09 am
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kcorrick:
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RT @kate_day Will the next election be the first Internet election? No, says @iaindale Email will still be the most important thing #oxsmc09 |
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10:10 am
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RossIGrant:
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Do we think people understand & accept they will be ordered about during a campaign? #oxsmc09 probably yes |
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10:10 am
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ianwilliams:
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RT @drgrahamwilson: "You can use it to talk about what your business is good about." Rocket science - this is NOT! #OXSMC09 |
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10:10 am
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vanderlowe:
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@blurky I think harnessing ppls emotion to organize them online is part of "getting it" #oxsmc09 |
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10:10 am
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kcorrick:
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RT @evgenymorozov Cyber-nationalism is one phenom I forgot to mention in my talk at #oxsmc09 -glad Ian Dale mentions BNP's Internet strategy |
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10:11 am
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jerichotraining:
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RT @drgrahamwilson: "You can use it to talk about what your business is good about." Rocket science - this is NOT! #OXSMC09 |
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10:11 am
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RossIGrant:
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Problem is we don't speak to them after the campaign, when they do expect us to listen #oxsmc09 |
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10:12 am
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Drunk_Bot:
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RT @caffeinebomb @chriscondron damn straight. Engage with the comments and help them grow into ideas. Or get drunk 2.0 :-) #oxsmc09 - ht ... |
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10:12 am
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JohnKelly:
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Who controls corporate blogs? What if employees blog about their own lives? Sounds like corps face same issues as journalists. #oxsmc09 |
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10:12 am
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caffeinebomb:
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You say decentralisation - but then we have a room of 'social media experts' preaching the growth of corp blog in other room. #oxsmc09 |
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10:13 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 Its not top-down or bottom-up, its in-between. (Bernie's social mediators rant again) |
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10:13 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Corporate blogs as a tool to engage in DIALOGUE with their customers - why should they do so now when they never have before? #OXSMC09 |
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10:14 am
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clk_:
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what do corporations do with blog feedback? do they listen to what people have to say about them? corporate blogging #oxsmc09 |
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10:15 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Q from out of house - RT @anthonypainter: @kcorrick Has the Obama m'ment not been deployed? |
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10:15 am
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megpickard:
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RT @kate_day Will the next election be the first Internet election? No, says @iaindale Email will still be the most important thing #oxsmc09 |
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10:16 am
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JohnKelly:
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So Kara is mean to some of her customers. Would she recommend corporations do the same? #oxsmc09 |
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10:16 am
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kate_day:
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@iaindale says internet goes against DNA of political parties which r built to make sure everyone is singing off same hymn sheet #oxsmc09 |
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10:17 am
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timmaughan:
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Kara Swisher has been the highlight of #oxsmc09 - smart, funny, no bs. |
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10:17 am
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clk_:
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"Dear Kara, you bitch" Kara says: Dear Geek, what abt ur mother ur sister, I dont ask u abt ur girlfriend coz obviously u dont have #oxsmc09 |
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10:18 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Excellent @marketsentinel CEO Mark Rogers talks about most imp soc network policy: do good & they will write +ve things about you. |
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10:18 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Excellent @marketsentinel CEO Mark Rogers talks about most imp soc network policy: do good & they will write +ve things about you. |
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10:18 am
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saratindall1977:
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@caffeinebomb #oxsmc09 forgot the hash tag! anyway, noone is preaching anything is this session- v interesting look at what is going on @ mo |
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10:18 am
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timmaughan:
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@caffeinebomb lol. That's so what we're not talking about over here. First proper debate of the day up in here. #oxsmc09 |
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10:18 am
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RossIGrant:
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Iain Dale criticises Kerry Mcarthy MP use of Twitter - Matthew Macgregor of Blue State Digital nods in agreement #oxsmc09 |
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10:19 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 And good can mean to make a difference, great customer service, good value product... |
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10:19 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 And good can mean to make a difference, great customer service, good value product... |
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10:19 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@timmaughan oooooo. Get you! ;-) #oxsmc09 |
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10:20 am
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mikeyferg:
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Why is everyone picking on the Google guy?? #oxsmc09 |
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10:20 am
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clk_:
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hmmm google do not "use" information they get in blog comments - don't think he understood the question - corporate blogging #oxsmc09 |
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10:20 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @kcorrick: #oxsmc09 @iaindale "Most politicians don't know their RSS from their elbow" [audience chuckles] |
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10:20 am
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Lottie748:
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Hear hear!! RT @timmaughan: Kara Swisher has been the highlight of #oxsmc09 - smart, funny, no bs. |
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10:21 am
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @kcorrick: #oxsmc09 @iaindale The only party in the UK who rlly understand the internet R the BNP. (unfortunately) 3 main parties dont. |
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10:21 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 RT @anthonypainter: @kcorrick isn't the issue that s m is just one aspect of organisation? That's the parties' fundamental problem. |
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10:22 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The reason why corperate blog session is going well is b/c it involves dollah. ;-) #imsuchatroll #oxsmc09 |
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10:22 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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So, why don't corporate executives blog - because they don't have anything intelligent to say? #OXSMC09 |
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10:23 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 If your company is getting bad press, fix the problem rather than issuing communications saying you 'feel their pain'. |
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10:23 am
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PeterBale:
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RT @mikeyferg: Why is everyone picking on the Google guy?? #oxsmc09 Because there is no one from Microsoft or News Corp to kick |
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10:24 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@timmaughan ha ha! We're breaking down barriers by trolling beween walls. #oxsmc09 |
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10:24 am
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kate_day:
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@iaindale criticises Kerry McCarthy for tweeting to West. village.But says his following cld help him win elec #oxsmc09 <-sleight of hand?! |
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10:24 am
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Nigel_Shadbolt:
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Andrew Rasiej calls for all Public Data that Governments hold to be published in machine readable form #oxsmc09 - I'll drink to that! |
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10:24 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 http://www.zappos.com cited as classic example of company that marries great cust service with v active soc network policy. |
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10:24 am
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timmaughan:
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RT @caffeinebomb: @timmaughan ha ha! We're breaking down barriers by trolling beween walls. #oxsmc09 |
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10:25 am
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chrisbatt:
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Andrew Rasiej calls for all Public Data that Governments hold to be published in machine readable form #oxsmc09 - I'll drink to that! |
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10:25 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 http://www.zappos.com cited as classic example of company that marries great cust service with v active soc network policy. |
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10:26 am
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MelindaKenneway:
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#oxsmc09 Great PR can be just doing something astounding and letting your audience react - sometimes it's good to say nothing. |
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10:26 am
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mikeyferg:
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Quote of the day from @karaswisher (while holding up her three middle fingers) ~Read between the lines! #oxsmc09 |
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10:26 am
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clk_:
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information overload, internet is noisy, but u can search through it & cut through the grnd just as u can do in real life #oxsmc09 |
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10:27 am
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kcorrick:
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RT @Nigel_Shadbolt: Andrew Rasiej calls for all Public Data that Governments hold to be published in machine readable form #oxsmc09 |
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10:27 am
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timmaughan:
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@caffeinebomb seriously, hope your enjoying ur panel - but shame you're missing Kara Swisher, thing you'd dig her #oxsmc09 |
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10:27 am
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RossIGrant:
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Iain Dale verifies his sources, blogger with journalistic discipline? #oxsmc09 |
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10:29 am
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kate_day:
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@iaindale spent ages carefully wording post about stories about Gordon Brown&depression.He decided not to blog til story had broken #oxsmc09 |
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10:29 am
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clk_:
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are we talking about online conversations for an elite? Africa does not have access to that elite due to technological limitations #oxsmc09 |
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10:30 am
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IanYorston:
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"Someone on the Internet is wrong..." @bengoldacre just referenced xkcd on panel at #oxsmc09 http://xkcd.com/386/ |
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10:30 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@cyberdoyle they can't enjoy the benefits without embracing the complications of freedom of speech. Self regulation. #oxsmc09 |
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10:30 am
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britishlibrary:
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Kara Swisher: cheap smartphones are going to give Africans fast internet for the first time #oxsmc09 |
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10:31 am
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JohnKelly:
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#oxsmc09 Corporate blog panelist Mark Rogers used to work at BBC. Apparently EVERYONE in England used to work for the BBC. |
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10:31 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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It is frightening to hear that Google, of all organisations, should say it doesn't see any value in dialogue with its customers. #OXSMC09 |
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10:33 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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RT @JohnKelly: #oxsmc09 "Apparently EVERYONE in England used to work for the BBC." I _nearly_ got a Blue Peter badge does that count? |
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10:34 am
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clk_:
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Kara Visits the Oxford Social Media Convention: I Say Twitt-er, You Say Twitt-ahhttp://tinyurl.com/mmdbvc #oxsmc09 |
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10:34 am
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caffeinebomb:
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The combo of #tedxtuttle and #oxsmc09 has given me a fab insight into the current media opinion in UK. You need to be in it to go beyond. |
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10:35 am
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RossIGrant:
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@rasiej political parties will only succeed if they become media entities #oxsmc09 |
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10:37 am
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RossIGrant:
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@iaindale explains Bedford mayor candidate open caucaus selection for Conservatives #oxsmc09 Well done Parvez Akhtar. |
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10:37 am
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britishlibrary:
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'The corporate blog is the only scalable way of talking to the people who talk about us'
#oxsmc09 |
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10:38 am
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drgrahamwilson:
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Is there a cultural difference between the relevance of the internet and social media - are we forcing it on Africa? #OXSMC09 |
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10:38 am
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kate_day:
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Money is the byproduct of community online. It is not the product says Andrew Rasiej #oxsmc09 |
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10:38 am
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OLAcademy:
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#oxsmc09 Tip for companies from Simon Hampton, Director of European Public Policy, Google: engage with other blogs as much as you can. |
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10:39 am
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caffeinebomb:
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Fundraising. No different from charity fundraising. Community first, before asking for money and formal relationship. #oxsmc09 |
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10:39 am
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geoffbannister:
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#oxsmc09 Tip for companies from Simon Hampton, Director of European Public Policy, Google: engage with other blogs as much as you can. |
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10:40 am
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RossIGrant:
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Offered an online donation via Facebook! #oxsmc09 Had to turn it down as guy was in Michigan (note Electoral Comm) |
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10:40 am
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caffeinebomb:
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.@drgrahamwilson yes, are we forcing our 'successful' tools onto other cultures - without historical, techno, social context? #oxsmc09 |
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10:42 am
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RossIGrant:
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Americans understand politics costs #oxsmc09 Not sure UK public are willing to fund parties/candidates the same way. |
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10:43 am
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caffeinebomb:
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@RossIGrant uni's have same problem. See alumni in america with big donors, want to replicate model. #oxsmc09 |
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10:44 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 John Lloyd - when campaigning parties do need to consider acting as media organisation, but once in gov internet not enough. |
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10:45 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09 - yutube / scandals / rants-as-conversation - is the Internet actually more emotionally intense than traditional media? |
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10:49 am
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jobucks:
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I've been posting very ragged notes for #oxsmc09 Oxford Social Media Convention here http://ow.ly/pZud |
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10:49 am
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Snarklife:
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#oxsmc09 corporate blog made me furious(ish). Dont blog unless you want to listen. If you don't know HOW to listen, hire a Community Manager |
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10:50 am
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jobucks:
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Everyone #oxsmc09 tell @ihatemornings to bring his guitar to the reception and sing The Twitter song. Please RT! |
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10:50 am
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aden_76:
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Wifi is back! @mistameena close your ears #oxsmc09 |
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10:51 am
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lorcanD:
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RT @britishlibrary: 'The corporate blog is the only scalable way of talking to the people who talk about us' #oxsmc09 |
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10:52 am
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JohnKelly:
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This seemed appropriate given today's conference: http://bit.ly/XeFgN Please take it in the joking spirit in which it was written. #oxsmc09 |
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10:52 am
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aden_76:
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corporate blog section was a bit hit and miss @karaswisher was the highlight....thankfully she is on the last panel as well #oxsmc09 |
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10:53 am
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JaneCawley:
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Oxford Social Media Convention http://tinyurl.com/oxford-social-media #oxsmc09 Some interesting stuff. |
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10:54 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Just starting the final session. Nigel Shadbolt, Richard Allen, Kara Swisher, William Dutton, Dave Sifry. Shd be good. |
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10:55 am
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blurky:
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#oxsmc09: Dutton on the state of social media: "unrealized potential" |
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10:55 am
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DJSoup:
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oh cool, @karaswisher is doing a second set #oxsmc09 |
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10:55 am
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timmaughan:
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Am sticking out last #oxsmc09 panel instead of beer just because scifi writer in me can't resist the word 'future'. |
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10:56 am
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Affable:
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Seems to me Google's new strapline should be "do not listen" not "do no evil" ... But at least its a start. #oxsmc09 |
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10:56 am
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sangeet:
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Dutton: web still much unrealised potential #oxsmc09 |
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10:56 am
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mikeyferg:
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@PeterBale I heard Microsoft was cool again! #oxsmc09 |
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10:57 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Final session is an open question sesh. Dutton points out that there's been little discussion abt policy+ what r the big variables? |
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10:58 am
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aden_76:
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RT @britishlibrary: 'The corporate blog is the only scalable way of talking to the people who talk about us' #oxsmc09 |
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10:58 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Swisher - all of this is inevitable. It's not a q abt whether you like it. It's the oxygen. Need to be thinking abt privacy for eg. |
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11:00 am
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kate_day:
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Bigger issues are privacy, access says Kara Swisher. We need to stop bellyaching about whether or not we should have social media #oxsmc09 |
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11:00 am
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clk_:
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RT @britishlibrary: 'The corporate blog is the only scalable way of talking to the people who talk about us' #oxsmc09 |
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11:01 am
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aden_76:
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'What if China decide to break TCP/IP?' @dsifry #oxsmc09 |
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11:01 am
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simonh1000:
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RT @mikeyferg: Why is everyone picking on the Google guy?? #oxsmc09 I love my job! |
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11:02 am
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JohnKelly:
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Sounds like they should have invited someone from China to speak. Woulda been interesting. #oxsmc09 |
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11:02 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Sifry - Swisher, this is quite a western perspective. We're already in place of v many internets due to language. |
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11:02 am
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clk_:
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RT @kcorrick: #oxsmc09 Swisher-all this is inevitable It's not a q abt whether u like it It's the oxygen Need 2be thinking abt privacy 4eg |
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11:02 am
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JohnKelly:
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Swisher: China bad. #oxsmc09 |
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11:03 am
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clk_:
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agree RT @JohnKelly Sounds like they should have invited someone from China to speak. Woulda been interesting. #oxsmc09 |
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11:03 am
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timmaughan:
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'what if China breaks TCP/IP?' Sifry - creates it's own Internet when rolling out to population? #oxsmc09 |
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11:03 am
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JohnKelly:
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Also: Burma. #oxsmc09 |
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11:03 am
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txtcraigbellamy:
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Why are there so many americans speaking at #oxsmc09 |
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11:03 am
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deejackson:
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#Oxsoc RT @JohnKelly - Swisher: China bad. #oxsmc09 |
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11:04 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Allen - is there increasing pressure to regulate? Yes. Once at scale there is inevitable political + cultural interest. |
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11:05 am
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clk_:
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to what extent will social media future be defined by what China does with internet? #oxsmc09 |
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11:05 am
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scilib:
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RT @lorcanD: RT @britishlibrary: 'The corporate blog is the only scalable way of talking to the people who talk about us' #oxsmc09 |
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11:05 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Allen - one of the crunch areas is identity and the regulation of identity, it's an area that govs want to intervene in both ways. |
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11:06 am
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ladykt:
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@fifitxbl check out #oxsmc09 for some info |
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11:07 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Dutton - in the US we would want anonymity to be protected. Allen - issues of identity vary from nation to nation. |
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11:08 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Shadbolt - I was delighted today to hear that FB was supporting personal data portability. |
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11:09 am
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aden_76:
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'All that delicious data held in these social networks will soon be set free' @nigel_shadbolt #oxsmc09 #openid #dataportability |
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11:09 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Shadbolt - what can you predict? That space and place will be re-defined + what we do abt social norms. Transparency is essential. |
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11:10 am
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JohnKelly:
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Re privacy: I saw Reid 'LinkedIn' Hoffman here 2 yrs ago. He said "Privacy as an issue is dead." But he would say that. #oxsmc09 |
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11:11 am
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PeterBale:
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RT @mikeyferg: @PeterBale I heard Microsoft was cool again! #oxsmc09. Oh yes, the favourite tech brand and underdogs |
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11:11 am
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thannigan:
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#oxsmc09 kudos to Facebook for following through on dialog with Canadian Privacy Commission & promising to deploy changes across the world |
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11:12 am
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rasiej:
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@Nigel_Shadbolt seconds my call for "Public" means online! #oxsmc09
All Government data and info must online to be truely public. |
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11:12 am
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DJSoup:
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#oxsmc09 Shadbolt talking personal data portability vs data collection by vendors, social networks. VRM time |
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11:12 am
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PeterBale:
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Highlights of #oxsmc09 for me: Dutton and Shadbolt giving thoughtful academic wonderment to growth of net, like excited astronomers |
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11:13 am
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PeterBale:
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2nd highpoint of #oxsmc09: Kara Swisher telling old farts where to get off, probably more than once |
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11:14 am
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kcorrick:
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RT @rasiej @Nigel_Shadbolt seconds my call for "Public" means online! #oxsmc09 All Government data and info must online to be truely public. |
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11:14 am
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PeterBale:
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3rd highpoint of #oxsmc09 @sambrook of BBC with most cogent argument I have heard for new view on quality #journalism which is "authentic" |
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11:15 am
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darenBBC:
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I hope @adriana872 got an invite to #Oxsmc09 - she is a true thought leader in data portability, #FollowFriday too. |
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11:17 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Discussing public data Shabolt notes difficulty to get rail time table data. Agree see @dracos and www.traintimes.org.uk |
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11:18 am
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txtcraigbellamy:
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Technological determinism bad. Technology good. #oxsmc09 |
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11:19 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Sifry - the gene is out of the bottle re. geo location data. Allen - it is covered by law in EU. |
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11:20 am
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Jane_Howitt:
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RT @drgrahamwilson: So, why don't corporate executives blog - because they don't have anything intelligent to say? #OXSMC09 |
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11:21 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Dutton - another issue that came through today was "quality" - science, campaigning, news, business comms, conferences. |
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11:22 am
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twistedbarbie:
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RT @JaneCawley: Oxford Social Media Convention http://tinyurl.com/oxford-social-media #oxsmc09 Some interesting stuff. |
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11:22 am
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colhawksworth:
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RT @caffeinebomb: There is no wifi at #oxsmc09 - if we can't get it at oxford uni, what hope does rural #digitalbritain? |
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11:26 am
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mikeyferg:
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@karaswisher Funny you mention it. Vivid colored watch that track children, from todays DailyMail. http://su.pr/16MYey #oxsmc09 |
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11:28 am
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thannigan:
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#oxsmc09 nice term mentioned several times today: techno-utopians |
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11:28 am
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managementsushi:
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Kara Visits the Oxford Social Media Convention: I Say Twitt-<em>er</em>, You Say Twitt-<em>ah</em> ... http://bit.ly/19c77N #oxsmc09 |
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11:29 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 @chris_yapp asking if the models we have work for 80% people online. Does this scale? |
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11:30 am
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megpickard:
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In 2020, will #oxsmc09 exist? And if so, will it feature so many white, western, middle-aged bespectacled males on panels? |
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11:33 am
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WineOfTheWeek:
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#ff @kcorrick for her informative tweets from #oxsmc09 today. This lady knows her onions. |
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11:33 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Swisher - you've got to think about video, movable text and screens. It's abt screen technology. |
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11:34 am
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timmaughan:
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Shift from text to video based media ecology? #augmented #oxsmc09 |
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11:34 am
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kate_day:
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Qu: Will communication improve as we communicate visually rather than with text? Kara Swisher says it's all about video #oxsmc09 |
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11:34 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Allen - I used to be fond of technology.... but then... Palin. Swisher - we stopped her!! |
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11:36 am
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aden_76:
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@kcorrick #palin....but they also created her! #oxsmc09 |
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11:36 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Sifry - Video is important but to think it will suddenly replace text. Swisher - ok, it's abt screens not just video, touch, push. |
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11:37 am
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timmaughan:
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Panel at #oxsmc09 need to watch more anime/read more scifi :p |
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11:37 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 My highlight of the day - watching the interactions btw Swisher and Sifry. It's like a brother + sister thing. Great discussion. |
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11:39 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 Predictions... Swisher - "jet packs" [audience laughs] |
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11:40 am
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kcorrick:
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#oxsmc09 That's it folks. Dutton gives a big thank you to everyone. [KC adds to you - thanks for not unfollowing due to volume.] |
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11:48 am
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Snarklife:
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#oxsmc09 which is better - the red or the white? |
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11:49 am
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geoffbannister:
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Signing off from #oxsmc09 with main message of: it's untapped potential. Bye! |
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11:49 am
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OLAcademy:
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Signing off from #oxsmc09 with main message of: it's untapped potential. Bye! |
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11:52 am
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cyberdoyle:
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@kate_day but half of #digitalbritain will be left out if it is video, they can't load video on rural dial up or contended copper #oxsmc09 |
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11:54 am
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Danne_Hotchkiss:
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RT @kate_day:Bigger issues are privacy, access says Kara Swisher; stop bellyaching about whether or not we should have social media #oxsmc09 |
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11:56 am
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Danne_Hotchkiss:
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RT @mikeyferg: Kara Swisher ~Social media is not an add on, it is the game. Mobile is the future. #oxsmc09 |
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12:03 pm
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txtcraigbellamy:
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Is on the train home from #oxsmc09 wiser to what he needs to humanise |
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12:07 pm
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adriana872:
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ooh, haven't yet! Iooks interesting. thanks @DarenBBC very much both for heads up and kind words. :) #Oxsmc09 |
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12:13 pm
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suchprettyeyes:
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Had to leave #oxsmc09 in a rush. Interesting day and met some cool people. Sadly on bus and missing social bit now :-( |
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12:15 pm
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adriana872:
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@DarenBBC hah, just saw it was today. Nothing on agenda about data & silos, just usual social media pontification. So 2006! :P #Oxsmc09 |
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12:51 pm
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JohnKelly:
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Survived my panel at #oxsmc09. Thanks to the Reuters Institute and Oxford Internet Inst. for having me. |
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12:54 pm
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drgrahamwilson:
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RT @aden_76: @kcorrick #palin....but they also created her! #oxsmc09 - Oh yes - nice one! |
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2:00 pm
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managementsushi:
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Social Media - a game-changing imperative! ... RT @mikeyferg: Kara Swisher~Social media is not an add on, it is the game. #oxsmc09 |
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2:02 pm
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Snarklife:
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#oxsmc09 Greatly enjoyed today - thanks to all the organisers. If anyone is an oxford local and wants to talk more, let's do pub some time. |
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2:12 pm
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briankelly:
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967 tweets today at #oxsmc09 from 189 contributors. Top place was @caffeinebomb (94 tweets). NB WiFi down for a while: http://bit.ly/NyuZU |
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2:26 pm
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ladykt:
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On that note if any1 @ #oxsmc09 wld like to answr q's on SM to help wit my diss it wld be appreciated! was too daunted 2day to ask! |
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2:27 pm
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caffeinebomb:
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@briankelly I think oxford own me a pint. ;-) #oxsmc09 |
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2:28 pm
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caffeinebomb:
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(Win) RT @briankelly 967 tweets today at #oxsmc09 from 189 contributors. Top place was @caffeinebomb (94 tweets). http://bit.ly/NyuZU |
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2:29 pm
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caffeinebomb:
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RT @joannejacobs RT @jobsworth: Mandelson and filesharing: can we get to 5000 signatures? http://short.to/qrl7 #digitalbritain #oxsmc09 |
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2:35 pm
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caffeinebomb:
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@bertil_hatt Facebook groups allow people to associate with a cause easily - rarely do they return. Gesture politics. #oxsmc09 |
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2:37 pm
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ianrobertwaugh:
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Phillipe Starck on Design for Life says he only does good design when not thinking abt 'Design'. Can we do the same in soc media? #oxsmc09 |
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2:40 pm
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cyberdoyle:
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RT @briankelly 967 tweets today at #oxsmc09 from 189 contributors. Top place was @caffeinebomb (94 tweets). http://bit.ly/NyuZU |
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2:51 pm
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caffeinebomb:
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@megpickard I hope not. #oxsmc09 |
